Talk:New Zealand humour

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[edit] Utter Tosh

The opening statement that NZ humour is based on the awkardness of displacement. It would be far more interesting if it was but NZ humour is based on standard situation comedy, word play and making fun of "the other" (be they different races, sex, nationalities, animals etc). This dubious claim needs to be expunged. Thecrystalcicero (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sharing vs Shearing

There is in fact a pronounciation difference in New Zealand English between "sharing" and "shearing". It is very subtle, but the "e" is pronounced in "shearing"

[edit] Indigenous

It _is_ true that if you go back enough generations, Maori are immigrants too. If America had colonised the Moon in the 1970s, it would still be true to say centuries later that 'go back far enough, and all Moon citizens are immigrants'.

[edit] Accents

That bit is wrong: it says "Aussies seem to gain an infinite amount of enjoyment out of the perceived similarity between the Kiwi pronunciation of the words six and sex." Actually, Australians think '(NZ)six' sounds like '(AU)sucks', while New Zealanders hear '(AU)six' as '(NZ)seex' or '(NZ)sex'


Why deleted? This is funny and reasonably informative given the subject matter. I was half-expecting a blank page on the subject of New Zealand humour. (obviously an Australian here)

I also agree it's a bit wrong - because NZers perceive Australians as saying "six" as similar to "sex". It needs a correction only.

Also it's in Kiwi English, not Broad Australian English that shear and share are pronounced that same (I'm Australian). So I have rephrased it.Myrtone

[edit] Noteworthy Comedians

I've removed the following from the page. If someone who knows about these comedians gets the urge to rewrite them with an encyclopedic tone, go ahead and then put them back. eritain 15:49, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Jan Maree is a one girl whirlwind that can whip any room into a frenzy. Over the past 2 and a half years she has produced several live shows including 'Rolling Stoned', 'Hairspray', and 'The Beatnik Dream', all of which have helped carve a niche for her 'in your face' energy, guts and grace.
  • Dwayne Francks is a New Zealand comedian who considers himself to be synonymous with humour and music throughout New Zealand. "Paroditty, impersonation and participation. ... Once Dwayne is behind the piano- watch out! There's no telling what will happen next. Be sure of one thing, Dwayne Francks defies the conventional pattern of mayhem in live entertainment with his unique on-stage persona that safely runs the gamut from music to comedy and back again!"

[edit] Lack of noteworthy comedians

Suspect having a list of "noteworthy comedians" should not include these legends in their own lunchboxes. The comedic heavyweights listed on the page here are up there with the likes of Spike Milligan, Bill Hicks, Billy Connelly & co.

[edit] Comedians

Alan Brough and Cal Wilson are quite well known in Australia - they may deserve a mention here as well. -- Chuq 04:00, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blessed?

blessed with multicultulism? lol sounds quite POV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.101.79.180 (talk • contribs) 16:03, Jan 21, 2006 (UTC)

  • I've removed it. --Grocer 07:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biased/POV

The whole article reads like some cringeworthy tourist board promotion "blessed with ..." "potent source of ..." and the breathless description of some of the comics (although if Jim Hopkins is best known for red spectacles, I assume the author doesn't find him funny). If it aimed at being an accurate description, perhaps a mention should be made of how many unsuccessful sitcoms NZ has produced over the years.

[edit] Dire

The article is dire, almost as dire as reality TV. I'd suggest that NZ is more notable for it's lack of humour than it's humour. NZ'ers with a sense of humour should be correctly identified either as ex-pat Kiwi's or Australians.

[edit] What about the slagging off at the Dorklanders?

There needs to be a section about howe Auckland keeps stealing all the money off the government and yet there are still to this date many problems with State Highway 1. I mean, come on. They need to build Transmission Gully, it's been far too f*cking long. --User:Thematrixeatsyou/sig 09:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

This entire article seems to have been written by some farktard American who thinks NZ is all about sheep and shit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.105.82 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Muldoon's Wildean moment

Muldoon's one about Kiwis moving to Oz raising the IQ in both countries is in fact an old Will Rogers line (in the original version, it was about Okies moving to California raising the IQ in both states). Since the joke is American, it's not clear how it's an example of distinctively NZ humour. Sure the Kiwi audience liked it, but so did the original Oklahomans. If it stays, it would seem only fair to credit it properly rather than imply it has an NZ origin.Alethic (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you have any evidence that Muldoon did not come up with this out of his own comic ingenuity? Should we also include his hilarious response to the Springbok Tour "no sport in politics"? Thecrystalcicero (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)