Talk:New Zealand Department of Child, Youth and Family Services

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[edit] Anonymous Weblog Attacks

The link to the anonymous weblog has been removed. I suggest that it is not added back to the article due to its aggressive nature towards CYFS staff and its NPOV content. --Roue2 23:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Anonymous Weblog Attacks

The link to the anonymous weblog has been reinstated. I suggest that it left in the article in order to provide readers with a link to content in order to understand the severity of the aggression direcected towards CYFS staff and its NPOV content.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.188.148 (talk • contribs)

WP:EL is quite clear that we don't link to such sites.-gadfium 03:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The formerly the Department of

A recent edit says that Child Youth and Family is formerly the Department of Child Youth and Family Services. This presents an interesting legal situation because the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services Act 1999, which is still in force and not been repealed, would suggest the organisation is still a Government department. What has apparently happened is that the Chief Executive of the Ministry of Social Development has also been appointed as the Chief Executive of the Department of Child Youth and Family Services. There is no legal restriction that says this cannot be done. However, it does raise the interesting legal consequence that the legal entity responsible is both a government department and a functional unit of the larger Ministry. Section 11(3) would suggest that reference to the chief executive responsible for the administration of the Children, Young Persons, and Their Families Act 1989 is the responsible chief executive for the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services. That suggests the department still exists, but as a functional unit of the larger Ministry of Social Development. -- Cameron Dewe 06:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

I believe the article title New Zealand Department of Child, Youth and Family Services is not correct as it does not follow the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (government departments and ministers). I believe better,, and naming convention compliant article titles would be either Child, Youth and Family (New Zealand) as the prefered name, or possibly the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services (New Zealand) as an alternative. The reason why I prefer the former is because CYF have branded themselves as Child, Youth and Family irrespective of being a separate government department, which they are, or a service of another ministry or department, which they also are and have been in the past. Previous alternative names of CYF include Child, Youth and Family Service, Child, Youth and Family Services, Child and Young Persons Service, Child, Young Persons and Their Families Service or similar permutations. -- Cameron Dewe 10:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)