Talk:New York State Route 5S

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[edit] Inaccuracies

I just changed the junction template to NYint. But I did note a couple of inaccuracies that need noting: NY 5S passes over/under the Thruway at two points, but neither are in the town of Root (they are to the west). Plus, I-890 needs to be included at the eastern terminus, and a note that I-790's western terminus is at NY 5S's western terminus.Fwgoebel 04:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The Thruway crossing and I-790 issues have been fixed. There is no need to include I-890 at the east end as I-890 ends at the exit prior to NY 5S, leaving only NY 890. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 01:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Under the current configuration, yes. point taken. In my mind though 5S used to end at I-890, I used to drive that daily so it's engrained in my mind as being that way. Now, I don't even use 5S in that area at all.02:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NY 169

My map shows that NY-169 begins at the Thruway and crosses NY-5S in the northwest corner of Danube, New York, not Little Falls. Stepp-Wulf 01:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

See response at Talk:New York State Route 169. I'll give you the town of Danube as the terminus is just outside the city limits of Little Falls, but it does terminate at NY 5S, which merely passes under the connection to the Thruway. Fwgoebel 02:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History notes

  • Established in 1930
    • Orignal routing was Oneida (NY 5)-Rome-Utica-Little Falls-Schenectady (NY 5). In Oneida it used 365A and 365 to Rome, then 69 to Utica (overlapped with then NY 49), then 5A and 5S to Rotterdam, then Rice Rd and River Rd to Schenectady (parts have been paved over by I-890 or abandoned). Portions of the routing were marked as "under construction" in 1930.
    • Appears to have been shortened to Verona (NY 31) by 1938, which shows 365 and 5S overlapping between Rome and Verona, and only 365 between Oneida and Verona.
  • Construction of I-890 is likely the reason why the east end was truncated to Rotterdam. Extension of 69 east from Rome to Utica appears to be when 5S was truncated to Utica.
  • Relocated to a new road between Whitesboro and Mohawk. There are stretches of local road known as "Old NY-5S".
  • Prior to 1930, Utica-Mohawk was part of pre-1930 NY 28. Oneida-Rome was unnumbered; Utica-Rome was part of pre-1930 76 (became 49 in 1930); Mohawk-Amsterdam as unnumbered or unconstructed; Amsterdam-Schenectady was unnumbered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polaron (talk • contribs) 20:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
The Schoharie Creek Thruway bridge collapse in the 1980s should be given some mention here since part of 5S was used as a detour for the Thruway while the bridge on the Thruway was rebuilt. I don't have access to newspaper archives, so I can't help on that front. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 20:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Items for future expansion:

  • Reroutings onto super-2s and expressways
  • Schoharie Creek bridge collapse/detour (1987)

The New York Routes link at the bottom of the page has tidbits on both. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 00:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)