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[edit] Improvement drive

National Football League is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Vote for it if you are interested!--Fenice 20:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Team name

I added some information about how the Jets are still called the NY Jets even though they play in New Jersey. Ever since I was very young I wondered about this and I couldn't find much information as to the reason the name didn't change to the NJ Jets, or why they didn't simply become the "Jets" or whatever. I personally think that it's stupid that they are called NY when their stadium is in NJ, but I'm afraid that this may be POV.

I would still like to know more information about why the name didn't change. I theorized that it may have been a marketing move indicating an intent to return to New York eventually, but that's just a guess. [20:00, 12 September 2005 216.139.155.239]

  • Probably they had the same reason as to why the Giants did not change their name. But for specifics, I'll have to research it further. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:05, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
The "New York" refers to the city, not the state; they are still part of the New York metropolitan area. Teams that move from city stadiums to suburban stadiums sometimes keep the city name anyway, e.g. Detroit Lions, Dallas Cowboys. Also, the Jets were still headquartered (admin, training, practice) on Long Island, New York and thus still felt a New York identification. Wasted Time R 20:28, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Speaking of team names, is it possible that New York AFL was originally the Titans to compete with the Giants in team name as well?CoolKatt number 99999 21:18, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Why the "Jets" name? Because of the Air Traffic at La Guardia or the Street Gang in West Side Story (remember the movie came out in 1961 and was wildly popular)?

another reason the jets had to change there name from the titans cause the owner of the giants at the time cause he pressed charges agaist the team cause the name sound similar

[edit] 2005 season

I added some stuff to the end to discuss the other injuries. You can change them if they seem too sad (as I am a very sad Jets fan because of this season). MrC 04:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

also the reason they where renamed the jets where cause of the giants owner at the time pressing charges on the team cause og\f the names mostly meaning the same thing

[edit] History too QB- and passing-centric

The team history sections are way too quarterback- and passing-centric. Namath didn't win the Super Bowl alone! The main text has no mention of Snell and Boozer (or of receiver Maynard for that matter, a HoFer!). Same problems in later years -- much discussion of QBs and receivers, but none of Riggins or Freeman McNeil. What gives? Wasted Time R 20:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History too recent-centric

Another issue: The history section focuses far too much space on recent seasons, especially the 2005 season, which is almost detailed game-by-game. 2001, 2002, and 2003 each get one paragraph. 2004 gets 3 paragraphs. 2005 gets 5 paragraphs which detail every major injury, list every game in the losing streak, and use the word "unfortunately" twice. The meaningless wins over Oakland and Buffalo get three sentences each - far too much coverage. I'm not complaining, just a heads-up that I'll probably be snipping a lot out of the 2005 coverage now that the season's over. Rhobite 04:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Perhaps we should cut almost everything out from the 2004 and 2005 seasons except for the important information ('04 playoff run, '05 potential and injuries, etc.). MrC 03:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Belichick?

Doesn't he belong on the list of head coaches? Even if it was only for a day, it still counts right? --Scaryice 05:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

  • No. The Jets do not officially list him as ever being the team's head coach and neither does the league. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mangini Era Clean Up

Does anyone think this needs a bit of a clean up? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.81.24.75 (talk • contribs) .

  • Most likely, yes. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a 24-hour sports nes site. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Get their own stadium?

Why don't they get there own stadium? Do they ever plan to? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.206.165.20 (talk) 05:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

There were plans for a new Jets stadium on the West Side of Manhattan, but that fell through a month before New York lost its bid in the 2012 Summer Olympics. Right now, it looks like they'll join the Giants in building a new stadium in New Jersey. Now that you mention it, I can't believe nothing in the article addresses their stadium history. Seems pretty significant enough to deserve its own section.--Highway99 06:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fireman Ed?

Just out of curiosity, is there any reason Fireman Ed has no mention on this page? (The guy who sits on field level and is usually shown on TV leading the fans cheering)

  • I have added fireman ed to the page.ROOSTER (talk) 17:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jets Patriots section

I added a Jets Patriots section. This is significant due to the coaching changes of Belicheck, Mangini, and Parcells. Please add on, as I'm sure there are more.

I honestly don't think it really warrants its own section. I mean, the coaching carousel is pretty much covered in the history section, and if we're going to list players who've played for both the Jets and Patriots, why not do it for any of the other 30 teams as well? I just don't see the notability of it.--Highway99 05:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The notabilty of it isn't just the coaching carousel, it's just how many players changed teams as a result of it. The players I listed were only in the last 10 years, and as you can see, this is likely more players/coaches then other teams have had their entire history. This is very relevant due to just how many players have changed team.

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BetacommandBot 09:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jets yobs?

I noticed a NY Times article (see here) that pointed out that some of the "gentlemen" of the Jets fandom have gotten a bit boorish. 204.52.215.107 (talk) 04:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

yeah. And someone deleted your mention on the assertion that it was "poorly written and does not follow the source". I restored the edit because I failed to see how it was poorly written or how it does not follow the source. Moreover, if it was poorly written or not following the source, it should have been rewritten so it does. — Rickyrab | Talk 20:26, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry about the question, but...

What happens when the Jets play the Giants? Wouldn't the home-field advantage be voided out, because it's the same crowd? And does the NFL have to work out a schedule so the two teams don't both have home games at the same time? I'd really like answers to these questions, if somebody doesn't mind. 71.192.47.62 (talk) 00:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as it would be with any other game. If the Jets fall as the home team (as they do in Jets/Giants games once every 8 years), then the game will be a Jets home game, and a Giants away game. It's not the same crowd - Jets fans have tickets to Jets home games and Giants fans have tickets to Giants home games. They are two separate organizations. But yes, the NFL does schedule their games so they aren't playing at home on the same weeks, obviously. Also, in the future, please avoid general discussion in article talk pages. Thanks. Pats1 T/C 01:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for clearing things up. 71.192.47.62 (talk) 20:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kotite

There's no mention of Pete Carroll's dismissal after one season (and why) and the following 2 infamous Rich Kotite years. This is vital to any comprehensive history of the Jets.

[edit] ny jets subproject

Does anyone think it would be worth making a Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/New York Jets subproject? The giants have one and other teams have one. I would join the sub project and if anyone else would or feels they should be one then then say so. Please post your comments underneath or My talk pageROOSTER (talk) 17:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely! I'd be glad to sign up for a subproject, and I'm sure other regular contributors would sign up. I think it would be a great way to get most articles relating to the Jets up to shape. Highway99 (talk) 01:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I have created the subproject Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/New York Jets subproject please join up and edit the subproject page and make it betterROOSTER (talk) 20:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)