Talk:New York's Village Halloween Parade
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[edit] to Lupin
Hey, Lupin, I have a concern and a personal favor to ask:
Remember when you assisted me with photo credits on New York's Village Halloween Parade? I took your advice and removed credits from the captions.
Now I am adding a "photo credit section" to the bottom of the page.
I have two concerns:
- I would like to add one of those tiny abbreviated wiki links, like a footnote, to captions, so the photo is linked to a "credit link" at the bottom of the page.
- Also, as a favor, I may want to re-add -- on at least two photos -- the name (only) of the photographer. I have searched the image tutorials and find nothing that prohibits this; in fact, on one page, in the section about captions specifically, there was an encouragement to add a credit. (I could add them in small type.)
I have gone to so much trouble to get professional photographers, and photo owners, to agree to the GFDL license, and I have assured them that they will be credited. The parade is a much-photographed event, but quality photos are rare, as it takes place at night, and access to photographers is restricted. I have tried hard not to over-promise what they get in return, but I did say they would be credited. One of them, Wendy Williams, noticed her name had disappeared from her photo. She is a professional (unlike some of the others) and makes part of her living selling photos. Her licensing was, in effect, a donation, and she was extremely gracious to do this.
In case you're interested, I'm working with a very talented photographer from the National Geographic Society to get GFDL licensing on some of his very impressive work on the parade. This stuff could easily qualify for featured photo status (they are just brilliant -- you would love them). I want to find every way possible, within acceptable WP guidelines, to incent these photographers to release work into GFDL. Then, as I approach my long list of other photographers, they will visit the page, see the quality of the photos and the credits -- and hopefully join the group of donors.
I am even drafting a proposal for the parade director -- who grants press and photo access -- to stipulate in the access agreement, that a portion of their work must be released into GFDL as a condition of being given access. Some of these photographers have already released their work to her, to do with as she will -- which is why she has been able to give me so many photos. She is a big supporter of licensing.
Hope I haven't overstated my case, but it is a labor of love. Your thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks.
paul klenk 21:52, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hi. To be honest, the reason I removed the credits was that I thought they disturbed the flow of the page - it's really a matter of consistency with other articles and style for me rather than trying to stick to any sharply defined policy. (Plus I'm a fan of WP:IAR). So I'd not have a serious problem with credits. On the other hand, those who remove such notices would, I believe, be well within their rights to do so if they wished to in the future; my understanding one thing you can't impose on text licensed under the GFDL is a requirement to have credits in a particular place, so promising photographers that credits will stay on the page forever may not be wise.
- Anyway, please feel free to add credits, preferably unobtrusively (as you seem to be suggesting) if you wish. Also feel free to ignore or contradict me as you wish in the future, and thanks for your courteous question and impeccable attitude! Lupin|talk|popups 23:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Name of article
Though I see their website is promoting "New York's Village Halloween Parade", as if noone west of the Hudson has heard of Greenwich Village, isn't the parade usually just called the "Greenwich Village Halloween Parade"?--Pharos 04:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. Oddly, research indicates that the article is titled correctly. http://www.halloween-nyc.com/index.php. You learn something new every day. —Nricardo (talk) 03:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Annual Theme
I removed the following from the "annual theme" section; although it is well-written, it is not encyclopedic.
"The city was broken-hearted and in disbelief. Scheduled fifty days after the attack, the march known for its variety of corpses, caskets, headstones and blood became unthinkable. Horrified and grief-stricken New Yorkers continued to sift through the smoldering rubble of the World Trade Center, pulling human remains out of the "pile" of steel and dust. No one knew when the fire would stop burning. Everywhere, city streetcorners, buildings, subways and train stations were littered with tens of thousands of missing posters placed by desperate families, friends, and coworkers searching for thousands of loved ones lost in the collapse. Funerals were taking place across the city, and the newspapers were full of obituaries.
On October 31, audiences lined Sixth Avenue and looked south towards Lower Manhattan, as they had for years, to watch the oncoming parade. "It was the first chance many New Yorkers had for a joyous mass gathering post 911, and to say to ourselves and the world, that we are still alive and kicking," wrote resident Alec Bennett. As they watched for a first glimpse of the new lead puppet, they saw smoke in the distance, rising from "the pile." The smoke was visible through a conspicuous new gap in the skyline, where audiences had seen the twin towers from the entire length of the parade route every year before (see above photo). Then the Phoenix came into view, as a fragile, incandescent, red-orange baby bird."
MlleDiderot 16:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] television coverage
article states "and a world-wide television audience of one hundred million."
is this for real? one can't even find it on comcast cable in suburban NJ.
perhaps it's clipped on news programs around the world, but i doubt the actual parade is carried (as it is on NY1 in nyc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.7.103 (talk) 13:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
