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[edit] Game Name

The game is now called New Super Mario Bros. I think the name should be changed, and all information, to reflect that.

Honestly, that sounds like a working title to me... I doubt it'll stick.
Oh really? You have no proof it was me. 23:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to take out all references to the title being a working title. After all, the new boxart still has the same name. - NES Boy 11:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enhanced Remake

NSMB is a completely different game to SMB, and not, as someone stated in the article, an enhanced remake. Knight of Ashitaka 13:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sales figures

"It has sold over three copies. And over four in Japan alone."


[edit] Sonic Spin?

  • Under Construction*

What is this "Sonic Spin" that is being referred to? I had assumed it was referring to the signature move of Sonic the Hegehog, but as the wiki link I put in the article to the character keeps being reverted, perhaps I was wrong. In either case, a wiki link should be provided, since it's not immediately obvious to what it referrs, especially if someone is unfamiliar with the subject matter. —Matthew0028 18:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

...or you could remove all references to it. That works too. :p —Matthew0028 10:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

well sorry It's just it is a bit unfair that the koopa kids are not in it

It's not really anything like a Sonic Spin. The Blue Shell basically just turns you into a shell when you run, like any shell that you'd throw.

[edit] Koopalings officially NOT in this game

People/fans have already gotten their latest Nintendo Power, June issue #204, and they said that the article states that the last interview was a misunderstanding. Nintendo really meant Bowser Jr. as a Koopa Kid. They did not mean that all the original 7 Koopalings will be in this. For the proof of this misunderstanding, just read the June issue #204 of Nintendo Power. 20:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Update - I've recieved my NP issue today, and I'll read you some words form the Pulse section that claims that the Koopalings are not in this game.
Missing Kids
Quit jerking me around! My favorite Mario characters are the Koopa Kids. In Volume 202, you asked Takashi Tezuka if, among other things, the Koopalings were going to show up in New Super Mario Bros., to which he replied, "yes." The very next issue shows Bowser Jr.-not one of the original Koopa Kids-in screen shots, but no word or image of the rest of my favorite Koopa pack. Are they in or not?
Bowser Jr. is indeed in the game, but the Koopa Kids are not. Mr. Tezuka's claim to the country was likely the result of a mistranslation or misunderstanding. We apologize for the confusion. If it's any consolation, the game is still superawesome.
  • And so, there you have it. The Koopalings are officially NOT in this game. 19:34, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Story

I just got this and rather than start writing the story out there I thought I'd start out here, especually since I have not finished it yet.

While Mario and Peach are going for a walk they notice that lightning is striking Peach's castle. Mario runs towards to castle to stop whatever is happening and Bowser Jr. nabs Peach and runs off.

[edit] Worlds

World 1: Grass

World 2: Desert

World 3: Tropical Island/Water

World 4: Forest

World 5: Ice\Snow

World 6: Mountain

World 7: Sky

World 8: Bowser's Lair

[edit] Multi Card

Does the mario and luigi multiplayer require each person to have a card, or 1 card between 2 people, also I feel that it should be noted that the minigames are one card for however many players.

  • The Mario & Luigi multiplayer works with multicard and singlecard. Cosmos 16:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I recently added a simple sentence informing of single-card play --Linkeatspie 13:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are my recent edits okay?

I made 4 back to back edits and then a 5th and 6th edit to fix 2 mistakes I made, but didn't cite any resources because I added info I learned from playing the game. Is this okay, or should it be reverted? 68.7.234.177 23:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Dude, that's fine. Back to back edits are fine, you are better off using the preview function, but anyone that complains about 6 edits in a row is off their nutter and you should ignore them. JayKeaton 14:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Secrets

This section seemed akward, was badly formatted, and had a few inaccuracies. Therefore, I completely redid it, and below are my reasons why:

The red boxes and the blue mushroom house are not secrets. The latter is unlocked by beating the game, and the former are similar to the Hammer Bros. They visibily move around the world map and are in plain sight within the levels.

There is no warp pipe which leads to World 5. There are several cannons which shoot Mario to other worlds. However, this article is not a game guide, and if we added specific directions about one cannon, then we'd have to do it for every cannon, and then we would have to do it for every other secret exit, invisible block, strategies to get 1-ups, etc. The article should only include details about general shortcuts, hence why I described what cannons are, rather than how to unlock each cannon, and where each cannon leads to. Cosmos 00:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Secrets Section

A secrets section has been added including a so-called 'Challenge' mode. I have tried this myself but I am unable to verify it. Perhaps someone could add some more information? Smomo 23:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

challenge me truthe

start l r l r x x y y

[edit] Codes

I deleted the "Codes" section because the Luigi secret is already stated in the "Secrets" section. --Padron May 22, 2006

[edit] Sales information in Japan

It is being reported that the game sold 480k copies in the first day (the previous record was Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training 2, selling 410k copies in the first four days). I will update the information when a reliable source (probably on next Wednesday or Thursday) informs about the total numbers. -- ReyBrujo 11:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

It seems Nintendo reported to retailers that New Super Mario Bros. sold 900k copies in the first four days. [1] -- ReyBrujo 11:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki game guide

I've started to work on a wiki guide to this game at http://www.gmcfoley.com/wiki/index.php?title=New_Super_Mario_Bros. If anyone is interested in helping out. Thanks, Gerard Foley 15:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Formula for Levels

69.181.79.72 keeps adding "The number of levels in world X can be described with the function f(x) = floor(8 + 0.5X)." This is totally irrelevant to the article. There are 80 levels and 8 worlds in the game, a formula that very few people can understand is not necessary. Cosmos 04:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

It is NOT difficult to understand. For example, World 5 has floor[8+0.5(5)] = floor[10.5] = 10 levels, while world 7 has floor[8+0.5*7] = floor(11.5) = 11 levels. I even Wiki-linked to floor. And of course, SUM(f(x), n=1, n=8) = 8+9+9+10+10+11+11+12 = 80 levels. Self-explanatory. 69.181.79.72 06:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
It is not difficult for you to understand. I consider myself of average intelligence when it comes to math, and for me the floor function article might as well be written in Spanish. Anyways, the difficulty in understanding your formula is irrelevant, because I don't think the number of levels in each world needs to be elaborated on in the article, whether in the form of some advanced formula that requires special knowledge beforehand to understand, or a literal description.. Information on how many worlds and levels there are and the theme of each world should be sufficient. Cosmos 09:10, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
That information is too specific for Wikipedia. It may fit a Wikibook or a StrategyWiki entry about New Super Mario Bros., but it is not necessary for Wikipedia. Remember that Wikipedia should not give advices, suggestions, or include tutorials, guides, manuals or recipes per 8th information policy. -- ReyBrujo 11:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-up

The article has been tagged, but nothing's really been mentioned as to what needs cleaning up. So, what is it, then? --Shadow Hog 17:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

There seem to be a lot of information that should not go in an article (items, elements, bosses, etc). If anywhere, they should only be named here, and move the rest to StrategyWiki or Wikibooks. -- ReyBrujo 05:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luigi in Intro

Article says that Luigi is in the introduction after the game is beaten. I haven't beaten it yet. I was up to World 2, and the next time I started the game, Luigi was in the into. Is there any clarification on this? Crockalley 12:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Which intro do you mean? If you mean the one on the main menu, then I didn't really watch that the whole way through. If you mean the one when you start a new file, Luigi replaces Mario if you are playing as Luigi. You have no proof it was me. 23:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
If you highlight Mario & Luigi option and wait some time without moving the cursor, Luigi makes a short cameo in the intro. I don't know if this happens just after beating the game, though. wilerson 18:12, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unencyclopedic minigame summaries

While the minigame summaries may be the official ones, they still seem rather unencyclopedic, and I feel they should be changed. Anybody else agree? --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 17:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Forget that, do we really need descriptions of all the minigames? --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 18:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Not really. I am tagging the Gameplay section. Also, things like Wanted!: It's easy to get lost in a crowd! Find the one who disappeared and touch him. sounds like advertisment, I could also add an advert warning there. -- ReyBrujo 19:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

That's not an advertisment! That's the in-game description before you play it. I know, I own the game!FrogTape 01:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First 2D Mario Platformer Since 6 Golden Coins?

Isn't it the first one since Yoshi's Island? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaziB (talk • contribs) .

I think Yoshi's Island is not counted because the player does not control Mario directly, but instead Yoshi. -- ReyBrujo 03:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
As the one to edit that blurb to what it is now, yeah, I exclude Yoshi's Island simply because it doesn't follow the original formula at all. It's its own entity entirely, gameplay-wise, barring the occasional head-bop and the more frequent enemy stomp. Actually, a lot of people think Super Mario World was the last 2D Mario game with the original formula, but 6 Golden Coins came out a year or so later, so that's why the line is what it is today. --Shadow Hog 04:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the introductory paragraph could be altered so that it states that it is the first new traditional sidescrolling Mario platformer since 6 Golden Coins, since it can be argued that because Yoshi's Island is recognized by Nintendo as an entry in the Super Mario Bros series, whether or not it counts as an official Mario title here would only come down to personal opinion. The full official title starts with "Super Mario World 2," which implies that it's the official sequel to Super Mario World, which is recognized as an entry in the traditional Mario platforming universe. It can be also noted that Yoshi's Island was rereleased for the GBA under the title Super Mario Advance 3 - a series that only includes the Super Mario Bros platformers. This is almost similar to how the American Super Mario Bros 2 strayed from the original formula since it was initially not a Mario game (but Doki Doki Panic) - yet it is still recognized as an entry in the sidescrolling Mario platformer series - even Wikipedia calls it the "third official sequel to Super Mario Bros." This could go back and forth forever, so maybe the inclusion of a word like "traditional" can help stave that off. --Duckyass 19:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Apparantly, the title "Super Mario World 2" was only added to Yoshi's Island in the U.S. and PAL versions to increase sales, and in Japan it's no more a main-series Mario title than Yoshi's story is. Knight of Ashitaka 22:59, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Challenge mode

Should something be added about the recently discovered Challenge mode? (Pause the game on the map and press L R L R X X Y Y. This stops you being able to turn back on most levels)--The last sheikah 21:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Considering there are NO codes listed on this specific article, I don't think it needs to be discussed. --71.70.185.69 22:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe the Luigi code is in there. I just deleted a section about the challenge mode because I had never heard about it, it was uncited, and it gave no code.--Chris Griswold 02:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

This should be in the article. It's significant to the idea that the game harkens back to the older games because it makes it more like the original.--Chris Griswold 13:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Three Star Requirements

I added the part about how to earn three stars by your file without really knowing Wikipedia guidelines. If it is not something that would normally be included, I'll understand if it is removed. 216.188.214.202 22:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it is worthwhile, but I think it needs to be clearer. Try not to write with the word "you" (second-person) or write it like a guide. Just tell us in as few words as you need how it happens. Instead of "you", you can refer to "the player". --Chris Griswold 04:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Can you post how to get three stars next to one's name here? please (gamefaqs has incorrect info on getting three stars, or else I would go there first.).Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 12:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
It's already in the article. --Chris Griswold 18:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Oops, sorry. But on my copy of New SMB my profile has two stars to the right of it, however when I load it it starts normally and on the map screens it says "All Coins Spent" in the bottom-left. I swear this is true. So does that mean I hit some bug somehow, or is there anything I can do?Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 12:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
btw I did collect and spend all big coins.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 12:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
You need to fufill the other requirements too; I had all the coins spent and every level/cannon, but I had missed 2 alt exits that lead to Toad Houses. ~Viper~ 07:28, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voice consternation!

Would it be correct to assume that this was a different Scott Burns that voiced Bowser, and not the Australian-rules footballer? I am aware that I have posted the same question at his article, but I've realised that's a dumb idea. So I'll remove it now. Vitriol 21:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I checked and apparently this is the voice actor: Scott Burns. I'm going through all the Mario articles that just link to Scott Burns and fixing the links. ~Viper~ 08:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Power-up descriptions

As per the Wikipedia rules, game guides are not allowed. However, the line that someone edited out was describing the effects of the item in gameplay, and how it changes the style rather than being a guide. It's exactly the same kind of thing as is in the Mini-Mushroom section, on how it makes Mario more vulnerable and makes the player need to approach enemies in a different way. Slavedriver 10:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

That's a little in-depth. I don't think we need to evaluate the game, just give a simple description. --Chris Griswold 17:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to either reword it to explain how it's not all great, and makes movement more difficult in some situations, or else remove the similar section in the mini-mushroom paragraph as well. Might want to have a look at the Minish Cap page too, they've got a whole how-to section on beating the bosses there, so by comparison there's no problem at all with what you chose to delete. Still, I leave it in your hands. Slavedriver 18:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I know you have the best interests of the article at heart. I will also remove the similat material from the other powerup item. I'm not sure how I missed it before. I will have to take a look at the Minish Cap article also. --Chris Griswold 19:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

But there really is criticism of this game including lack of new power-ups, repetitive gameplay and lack of spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just go to ign and gamespot forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frankyboy5

We need citations of a reputable source. --Chris Griswold 07:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Until then, should the Criticism section just be deleted ? Just want too clarify ... ~Viper~ 07:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's just unreferenced POV, and it doesn't belong. --Chris Griswold 07:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
why is it unreferenced POV? what reputable source? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frankyboy5 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Oh-ho-ho!!!!and okey dokey!!!

I found out that if you beat the game as Luigi, touching the letter "y" will sound like Luigi saying "okey-dokey" and not Mario's "oh-ho-ho!!!!" Frankyboy5 01:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No criticism?

I've heard people complain about this game, especially about it being very short. Should it be included? I personally haven't played the game, so just throwing this out there. Throw 03:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

No, unless they're a writer for a book or major news site or television show. --Chris Griswold 07:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Do video game sites such as IGN, Gamespot, G4 count?Throw 08:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, absolutely, but not their messageboards. --Chris Griswold 09:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Of course. I'm referring to the actual editors, reviewers, etc for the site. I'll pour through a few sites, see if I can find anything other than "It's too short" to provide a thorough criticism section. Throw 15:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Gamespot said that some levels were too short. Frankyboy5 04:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's a source [1]Frankyboy5 04:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

IGN gave the game a 9.5. However, if almost any game site existed when Super Mario Bros 1, Lost Levels, 3, and World were launched, they usually will be rated 10/10. The game just doesn't live up to those games. Also, IGN is often accused of inflating their score. Same thing with Nintendo Power. X-Play says the game gets repetitive by world 4 and there are no good power-ups [2]. Many reviewers gave the game 9.0-10.0. Look at the Metacritic page [3]. However, look at the number of 8.0s and even 7.0s and 6.0s. Many usually complain about the game to be too short. These are controversial changes in mario ports and newer games: In the GBA version of Mario World, it was reverting into super mario when hit as fire or cape mario. In the GBA version of SMB3, it was the levels being slightly easier. For Mario Sunshine, it was the lack of reward, variety and faultly camera. For SM64DS there was the flawed control and lack of reward. The developers of the game (NSMB) even said they don't want the game to be too hard. Takashi Tezuka said in an interview with Nintendo Power:"I wanted to recapture the spirit of the original Super Mario Bros". And that "It's important not to betray people's expectations". Bad Move. People wanted a game where there is flying powerups, yoshi and many more features. However, Takashi Tezuka, said how those things do not fit with the original SMB. But he also said "It's important not to betray people's expectations". So, he did "betray people's expectations". Frankyboy5 14:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The above paragraph is far too harsh and blows many things out of proportion. Criticizing the game for not getting a perfect 10 everywhere because of hypothetical situations where previous games would have isn't fair, and I don't see a point in listing criticisms of previous Mario game ports. Tezuka said he wanted the difficulty to be balanced, which should not be taken as a bad philosophy. The end with the betraying expectations quote seems to be added just for the sake of having something to criticize. KI Simpson 16:01, 22nd August 2006

[edit] References

  1. ^ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4121567888800856588
  2. ^ http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/1166/New_Super_Mario_Bros.html
  3. ^ http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/newsupermariobros?q=new%20super%20mario%20bros

[edit] Not true

First New Traditional Sidescrolling Mario Platformer Since Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins is not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins is more of a spin off because although it has a similar feel to "true" mario games, it had a different story that's not traditional. It was made by Gunpei Yokoi not Shigeru Miyamoto. Also, it is part of a whole different series. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frankyboy5 (talk • contribs) .

Seriously, guy, what's up? Why are you so negative about this game? Please calm down and ease up on the exclamation points. --Chris Griswold(☏) 03:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I have t say, though, are we also neglecting the fact that Super Princess Peach, which is a recent game, is also a pretty traditional Mario game? --Chris Griswold(☏) 03:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
But it is still an official 2D Mario game. 'Traditional' in this sense means 2D and side-scrolling (and starring Mario), essentially. It is part of a different series, but it's still an official Mario platformer, ergo a true Mario game. You admit to it having a similar 'feel' to other Mario games, which is far more important than the 'story' (which is rudimentary at best in the majority of Mario titles anyway). In response to what Chris said, I'd say you're right, but Super Princess Peach probably shouldn't be counted as that didn't star Mario himself and is therefore most definitely a spin-off. Makron1n 00:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island is part of the series, though. I think when we're the ones deciding what "traditional" means, that's original research. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 02:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
I guess so. The text really needs clarifying, so that it's clear that what we mean is a 2D side-scrolling platformer starring Mario himself, since Yoshi's Island stars Yoshi (although it does have Mario in it). Makron1n 22:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
I gave it a shot. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 23:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reception is way too positive.

The reception is way too positive. Even critics say the game is too short [2] the gameplay gets repetitive [3], bosses being too easy [4], new power-ups not making up for the lack of flight [5], and the lack of innovation [6]. Frankyboy5 23:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Although ironically, most of those reviews still gave it a positive score, and they're not even particularly mainstream... Makron1n 12:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Older games may have gotten a perfect 10 from almost any critic. Frankyboy5 00:30, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Not really relevant. The game still got a decent review score, compared to other videogames, from most of the sites that you mentioned. The old games being better or not doesn't matter. Makron1n 22:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

It even says here that they made NSMB for non-gamers too [7]. Frankyboy5 05:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually Miyamoto says that he aims to make all games accessible to non-gamers, not just NSMB. Makron1n 21:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah but they had difficulty with it for NSMB. Plus, he's trying to make total non-gamers play, kinda like Wii-Sports, Nintendogs and Brain Age. Also, he was only a supervisor, not a producer, so how could he know???? Takashi Tezuka said that the Mario series was supposed to be for hardcore gamers and now there targeting non-gamers as well which is a problem. It seems like the difficulty of games can't be balanced!!!!!!!!!!!! Frankyboy5 05:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It's not anymore the most fast selling game in DS

Pokemon Pearl & Diamond did better than NSMB,you need to refresh it.

[edit] Citations for release dates

I added proof (click on the "more specs" drop down menu) of the european release date but is it really needed? I haven't seen any other games release dates having proof requested like this. -- Doc711 09:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I too don't see the point in adding citations for release dates that have already passed. Nevertheless, I'm adding a citation for Australia. Hardcore gamer 48 05:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lists and lists

Can we get rid of the list of mini-games? It's really not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Take a look at Super Mario 64 DS, which also contains lots of mini-games, but they are discussed in a tight prosified paragraph. Also, I think the "Elements" section should be prose, not a big list. Sraan 19:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I think I have added {{move to gaming wiki}} here, but apparently it was removed. -- ReyBrujo 03:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Good idea. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 08:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The recent revert

The user "ChrisGriswold" has recently reverted my changes back to a piror version of the plot section saying that Mario defeats the Bowsers in World 8 (the skeletal Bowser and the final Bowser) by dropping them into the lava. The problem with that is that there is actually no lava present in those fights. The Bowsers there just fall down until there is a crash. - NES Boy 00:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know why it was reverted. I wrote the original plot summary, but I believe you about the lava. I would go ahead and change it back again and ask to refer to this discussion if anyone challenges it. Sraan 01:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nintendo Power

"The game has generally received very positive reviews. It was rated a 9.5 by four of the reviewers in Nintendo Power, making it the highest rated game in history under their current rating system."

This is not true; Nintendo Power gave Resident Evil 4 for the GCN a perfect 10/10. Someone needs to fix this. Alakazam9891 15:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


I fixed it. I changed the statement to "one of the highest rated games..." CJ 21:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion between 3D models and pre-rendered sprites

The article says this: "While the main characters and villains are 3-dimensional, most of the lesser enemies and objects are pre-rendered sprites on 2-dimensional backgrounds, resulting in a 2.5D effect."

Someone may want to change this, as I have used a program called "NDSTool" to extract the game files and I have found that all the enemies (yes, even enemies like Goombas and Koopa Troopas) are 3D models.

Opening these in a program called "Tile Molester" which works specifically on games and their files, I found the texture data for these, which proves that they are all 3D models, not pre-rendered sprites. 195.166.202.104 22:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

when i use ndstool to extract the files, I get a bunch of files. in the data\enemy directory, there are a bunch of *.nsbca and *.nsbmd files. how do you know these are for 3d models?
also, which extensions imply that textures are being used?

I cannot trust that. You have to cite the notion that they are 3D models. Frankyboy5 05:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] question about the stars

when you beat the game, you get one star and can then save anywhere. i now have two stars. i think that's because i've beaten all the exists. is that correct?

also, i now appear to be able to go to mushroom houses as frequently as i want to without having to worry about them destroying themselves. is that true?

finally, i've read that you can get up to three stars. this, i assume, happens when you get all the gold coins. does three stars get you anything?

1) Yes, that's right.

2) Yes, that's also right.

3) Three stars can be got by spending all the star coins. I don't think getting all the stars actually unlocks anything new, but once you have all three thats a sign that you have completed the game 100%. What you do get is an great feeling of wellbeing from having completed the game :). Smomo 17:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

1)Yes 2)Yes 3)Yes Patroopa 14:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] would it be considered listcruft...?

would it be considered listcruft if I noted the similarities between the worlds of the original SMB, NSMB, and SMB3? Tehw1k1 08:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

IMO, yes. — Malcolm (talk) 19:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] We assume he says something uncouth.

I deleted the sentence that said, "We assume he says something uncouth." (refering to Bowser Jr. after you win the game. For 1. It's an assumption and 2. That has nothing to do with the game. It also mentions "we" --FrogTape 01:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sequel?

I know theres always speculation and questions about sequels popping up, I've heard some rumors but figured I should ask you guys if you've heard any kind of tangibility... and if we have anything more than "it would be a fun project" as a quote perhaps we could say something on the page. per chance. Madhatter9max (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)