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Another few days and I'll have a write up on Plowden's attempt to established a colony named New Albion. Too much to do this morning. --ExplorerCDT 12:29, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Your edits are quite welcome on this page. Please, however, do not suggest that the debate on this issue has been settled. There is nothing close to agreement among scholars on this. The Whale Cove theory, while interesting, is certainly not the standard opinion among scholars. The article must reflect that. I know you probably feel strongly about this, which I respect, but the article has to be balanced, and be acceptable to someone who thinks Whale Cove is bunk and Drake landed in Marin, for example. Also I've moved the other material to separate article on the East Coast colony. -- Decumanus 18:06, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

[edit] Bronze (copper?) plaques

Part of the Drake legend when I was growing up here in BC was a supposed bronze plaque - taking possession or whatever, and naming the place Nova Albion - or more than one of same, that were part of Drake's actions on his landing(s). I note this isn't in the article, so I guess it isn't in Sam Bawlf's book (which I haven't read, although I'm from BC). Supposedly hammered into an "oake" but I've never seen the text, or even know if it's in the text. I do remember claims that one had been found, heavily corrodoed and barely readable, near Sooke, British Columbia, and also I think on the southern Queen Charlottes, also near Coos Bay, Oregon and also in Marin County, or whatever county Bodega Bay/Fort Bragg is in. Anyone else heard of this? Think it should be mentioned, even if it's not in Drake's logs; don't have any refs at present but I know they're out there...I'd imagine it was copper rather than bronze, which is harder to work after it's cast (although a ship's armourer in those days probably could make anything).Skookum1 16:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Albion, BC

Also, this locality in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, across the Fraser River from Fort Langley, was named in salute/tribute to the Drake claim/discovery, partly to underscore British sovereignty at the location; Fort Langley had been created as a redoubt in the event of American seizure of the southern Columbia District/Oregon Territory, where the HBC "capital" at Fort Vancouver would be (and was) lost to American hands. Too fuzzy brained at the moment (c-o-f-f-e-e, more c-o-f-f-e-e) to try writing anything simple right now, and may forget to come back; just suggesting a mention of Albion BC should be made.Skookum1 16:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Frank Ney's theories and others

Currently there is no mention in this article of the admittedly "out there" theory by former mayor Frank Ney of Nanaimo, an amateur historian with the cred to get published (in nice hardcover, too), about Nova Albion having been in the Georgia Strait area, specifically the Comox Valley area. I'm not saying he's right, only that his theory is in print of late and should be accounted for here. There were also claims I remember over the years about copper plsques being found at Sooke and also on the southern Queen Charlotte Islands, which may have been Drake's, or are claimed or hoped/speculated to be. Those I can't cite, I just know they're out there somewhere, and may be given in detail in Ney's book, which I don't haev on hand and haev never read (only its reviews and a synopsis in The Vancouver Sun, by Stephen Hume I think); James Delgado, former curator of the Vancouver Maritime Museum and now relocated to another maritime museum in, I think, Florida, may ahve also written about htem in his various historiecal writings on the BC Coast.Skookum1 (talk) 17:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)