Talk:NeWS

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I've never heard anyone confuse DPS and NeWS, so I'm not sure why it would be "common belief". The two are discussed below in context, so I'm going to remove this sentence. Maury 23:19, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree the wording of the sentence was bad. Perhaps it should be changed to something like "Despite their ties in PostScript" etc. However, didn't you remove too much when information comparing the two systems were blown off the article? Kowloonese 00:46, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I would say 100% of the people I have met who have heard of NeWS believe it is some kind of adaption of DPS by Sun and that it uses Adobe code. That is why I initially put that text in, to try to dispell this misconception.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.124.84.226 (talk • contribs) 16:55, March 30, 2006

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[edit] Screenshots?

Can anyone add some screenshots? I think it would be good.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.236.216.253 (talk • contribs) 15:05, December 23, 2005

[edit] Both sides in two languages - really?

This statement:

"Writing NeWS apps required coding both client-side code and server-side code in two different programming languages."

Means that the client-side was written in two different languages, AND that the server-side was written in two different languages. Is this really what was intended? 24.84.168.252 sroberts

Certainly not. I've clarified this sentence.--Jec 02:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] comments on NeWS

We had a stub generator that would convert from a marked up C file and generate convenience stubs for going between NeWS and C. It was nasty and ugly and something I really never liked and desperately wanted to change.. never did..

The NeWS/X11 merge was remarkable in that David Rosenthal (writter of the ICCCM for X11 which defines how cut/paste works) said it was just a few weeks of work and a Awk script or two. In the end it took us 200 programmers over 2 years to pull off and required a complete rewrite of both the X11 and the NeWS engines from the ground up.

The team was broken up as follows for the X11 merge

  • 2 programmers did the NeWS interpreter, NeWS/X11 window manager, NeWS terminal emulators, NeWS debuggers, NeWS/X11 integration, and memory management
  • 6 programmers did the TNT/NeWS toolkit and NeWS openlook implementation
  • 20 programmers did the X11 rewrite
  • 100+ programmers worked on the OpenLook tools on top of X11

While it is true that it was ugly, it was a very powerful system that you could do amazing things with...

--josh siegel
(Author of the NeWS interpreter from NeWS 2.1 until its death..) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MouseJstr (talk • contribs) 19:23, November 1, 2007

[edit] Looking for original NeWS "eyeball tracking the mouse" program

I've just added a cross-link to xeyes, which was inspired by a Jeremy Huxtable NeWS version shown at SIGGRAPH. I've also added a link to Jeremy's posting on comp.windows.news, which serves as an example of NeWS programming.

So far so good, but what I'd really like to to is get my name up there in lights, because I claim to have written the very first such app, in NeWS, at Queen Mary College (University of London), back in late 1986. Mine was superior - it used a round canvas for the eye, a round child canvas for the pupil, and allowed the centre of the pupil to go as far at the edge of the eye, relying on NeWS to clip the result to give a proper cartoon eyeball effect. I also remember that it exposed what I felt was a bug, namely that the position of the child canvas was not specified relative to the origin of the parent canvas. I've got at least one colleague who remembers it and can place the date, but I'm unable to find any other hard evidence of it. I've also failed to contact Jeremy Huxtable, to find out if he remembers seeing my version, or if his idea arose spontaneously.

Is this a proper use of Wikipedia? Can any of you NeWS folk remember my version?

William Roberts W t roberts (talk) 11:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

"what I'd really like to to is get my name up there in lights"
+1 honesty... :-)
"Is this a proper use of Wikipedia?"
If this is part of the history of xeyes, which itself is allegedly notable in that no one has deleted its article yet, than it could go there. But you'd need verification, and use of WP for self-promotion is strongly frowned upon, so "name up in lights", not so much.--NapoliRoma (talk) 17:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)