User talk:Neversay.misher

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[edit] Confucius edits

Hi Neversay.misher. I see you've been tidying up the Confucius article. Thank you! I also noticed you added in as sources a couple of wikis - wikisource and chinese-wiki.com. Unfortunately publicly editable wikis are not reliable sources for the purposes of an encyclopedia (even a wikipedia!). I noticed you had a Chinese source in some of these places before you used the wikis. I'm not able to assess Chinese language sites, but wondered if they were approriate as replacements? Or if you know of more authoritative sources that could be used? Otherwise we should really replace with a {{cn}} tag. Thanks again for all your hard work. -- Siobhan Hansa 13:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not stability that's the issue with wiki's, it's the lack of rigorous fact checking and authoritative reputation. Publicly open wikis not only allow, but encourage people who are not well regarded experts to edit - this is not appropriate for a reliable source unless there is expert oversight. Translations in particular need to have a reputation for accuracy. While you may be able to check the appropriateness of a wiki, our verifiability policy requires that sources don't rely on this type of skill from editors - deciding that a translation is good is effectively original research.
I'm came across your edits because I've been following Chinese-wiki on Wikipedia. Editors of the wiki have been spamming it inappropriately across Wikipedia, along with a couple of other revenue generating sites. So I am keen to ensure it doesn't get inserted in places where our policies don't actually support its use. -- Siobhan Hansa 14:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editor from Chinese-wiki.com

Hi Neversay.misher., I have read the above thread and would like to express my thanks for putting ours site links in Confucius' article. It is heartening to know that after spending more than 2 months of rigorous study and translating the Analects of Confucius (Lunyu) into Modern Chinese and English, giving it the proper meaning that other translators failed, someone appreciate such an effort. Thank you once again and do continue to support chinese-wiki.com.

[edit] Metal is now the COTF

 You showed support for Boat at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics/Core topics COTF. This article was selected as our collaboration of the fortnight. Hope you can help.

Thanks for your interest in helping improve the core topics! Walkerma 16:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)