Talk:Nevermind

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  • Expand lead. Outline (?):
  • First para: introduction and sales, chart performance
  • Musical style
  • Legacy among critics and artists
  • Expand the music section
  • Create and expand the legacy section
  • Provide a citation for those entries in the Accolades section.
  • Convert web references to {{cite web}}
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[edit] Sources

As suggested by WesleyDodds, we should collate potential Nevermind sources:

[edit] References

I went through and repaired all the references. I couldn't figure out what the 15th ref, "Di Perna, Alan. Fall 1996", is referring to. it needs to be clarified or removed. It doesn't state what it's referencing, and uses a seasonal term to describe its date. Could somebody who knows what this is referring to please clarify it? Grim 17:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I think I know what it is. I believe it's a reprint of a 1996 Guitar World article. I have a reprint of it, but not on me at the moment. WesleyDodds 03:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gramatical Errors

I've found a few grammatical errors, most notably in the first paragraph with words such as "aand" and "oen" which were corrected accordingly. Just a reminder for anybody to catch little mishaps such as those already mentioned! User:Chaide 18:11, 30 September 2007

[edit] Total sales?

Anyone know total sales, both U.S. and world wide?--TallulahBelle 13:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

U.S. sales are 10 million+, worldwide sales are 26 million+. Both sources are at Nirvana discography. --Brandt Luke Zorn 13:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Cover Art Photography

I've just embellished this section with the fact that the Elden's received just $200, as it's an interesting fact. However, regarding the photography, in the article it says that 5 shots of the baby were taken and hints that Spencer was the only baby filmed. However, in a UK e4/ Channel 4 programme in 2005 titled The 100 Greatest Albums, a caption said 'Spencer was one of 12 babies photographed for the sleeve'. This isn't a big issue frankly, but can we just bear it in mind for a possible change in the future - I appreciate that the caption could easily have been wrong, but Rick Elden DID feature in the programme and we have to assume that the researchers got the info directly from him, someone who claimed to be a 'good, good buddy' of the photographer at the time. Jaydash, 02:15, 28 October 2007

[edit] Outtakes

Why was information about outtakes deleted? They had been a part of this article for years and to say "I don't think we need this" doesn't make sense. I've added them back in and I would like someone to explain why they are irrelevant to the article.

[edit] Stay Away

I think that "Stay Away" should be given its own article. Does anyone else agree? --Classicrockfan42 (talk) 03:16, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it had enough detail in its last revision to at least be stub-worthy. Its Live Nirvana Song Guide entry has a few more bits of info that could be added. --jh51681 (talk) 07:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Songs all gone

I'll keep it short, someone deleted all the songs on the track. No explanation given, they just did. TostitosAreGross (talk) 00:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Per dicussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music, we redirected several of the song pages since they are not notable enough to deserve separate articles. WesleyDodds (talk) 00:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harmonically Indeterminate?

Under "Music," the article states "Cobain, Nirvana's main songwriter, fashioned chord sequences that were harmonically indeterminate (neither major nor minor)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevermind#Music . I'm no music expert, but just about every Nirvana song is in minor. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "In Bloom" are in F-minor, "Come As You Are" is in D-minor, "Breed," "Polly" (chorus is G-minor) and "Lounge Act" are in E-minor, "Territorial Pissings" is in A-minor, and "Drain You" is in F#-minor. "Lithium" and "On A Plain" are more complicated, but the former's bridge ("I'm not gonna crack") and latter's chorus both sound in G-minor. This statement about the album being harmonically indeterminate should be further explained or omitted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starscreech (talk • contribs) 18:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who wrote the songs?

This article says they were all written by Kurt Cobain alone (apart from Smells...) but on the record sleeve it says "All song lyrics by Kurt Cobain/Music by Nirvana". Who's right? MFlet1 (talk) 22:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)