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[edit] Slightly meta question
How is it that Neuroscience is not a topic area???
[edit] Two comments
First, the postulate ” Some researchers believe that cognitive neuroscience provides a bottom-up approach to understanding the mind and consciousness that is complementary to, or may replace, the top-down approach of psychology” is a mere speculation. The top-down/bottom-up debate in psychology was going on before the field of neuroscience emerged, and it is unlikely to be resolved by neuroscience in any near future. One could even claim that the fMRI-technique widely used within cognitive neuroscience actually is a top-down approach. It is in some sense in the name itself: "FUNCTIONAL magnetic resonance imaging".
- Psyklic 21:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)I agree -- I have never heard of psychology as being the "top-down approach," although I can somewhat see where that comes from. If anything, I would consider AI to be the main "top-down approach" since researchers begin with high-level features then try to break them down into working pieces.
Second, do you have any concrete reference to people claiming that psychology is a sub-field of neuroscience? I've never read anybody claiming this. Are there actually people saying this? Biological psychology is obviously only one subfield of psychology. There are other fields such as social psychology, health psychology, personality and so on. Are all these a part of neuroscience?
- Psyklic 21:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)I agree with this as well -- neuroscience is more an inclusive group of fields than a specific field, and the mentioned branches of psychology do not fall within its scope.
Having said these things, I like the approach taken in the article. I just think that the text is not optimally organized.
[edit] Neuroscience Template
How about a template for neuroscience like the template for psychology (right side of page):
--Nectarflowed 10:34, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Okay, but are the distinctions so clear? Sayeth 16:36, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Neuroscience & Neurobiology
I've read in one glossary a definition of neuroscience as technically being within psychology rather than biology, while neurobiology is within biology. Wikipedia currently has neurobiology redirect to neuroscience. Can anyone explain the distinction between neuroscience and neurobiology? --Nectarflowed 11:36, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- This is very difficult because there is even some ambiguity within the neuroscience community. "Neuroscience" is a blanket term that refers to all the specific fields that study the nervous system. In some sense psychology is actually of sub field of neuroscience (though there are some mind/body theorists that would argue it goes the other way). Neurobiology is specifically the the study of the biology of the nervous system. Now that overlapps with neurophysiology which studies physiological propoerties of the nervous system which necessarily involve biological processes.Goferwiki 10:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- My current understanding is that neurobiology is strictly related to the biological anatomy and functions of the nervous system and brain. Neuroscience appears to be a bit broader category than neurobiology although I think the distinction is slight and for all practical purposes, these two terms may be synonymous. However, I don't see neuroscience as a sub-category of psychology (as the earlier poster eluded to). I see the fields of psychology and neuroscience as quite different beasts although modern-day psychology is beginning to look more and more like neuroscience. Psychology delves into theories of the mind that would not likely hold much water in contemporary neuroscience (ie. Freudian psychology, Jungian psychology, etc.). Even Aristotle's 'psychology' is far afield from today's neuroscience. Yet, if we suggest that psychology is a field where the history of the study of mind is examined, then psychology would incorporate neuroscience as a modern theory of mind. Philoprof (talk) 16:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)Philoprof
[edit] population coding
The "population coding" hyperlink in the text is invalid, while there's an entry "population encoding" in Wikipedia. Do they refer to the same thing? If so, maybe we could link them?
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- The most commonly used term is "population coding". I've moved the contents from "population encoding" to a new population coding page. That page needs a lot of work though... semiconscious (talk · home) 04:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] What does this article need?
The easiest way to expand this article is for us to suggest the section headers it needs and then create and develop them. One way to do this is to look at comparable articles (cardiology, for example - a list t the moment). Anyone have any suggestions? --Oldak Quill 00:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- An awful lot of Cardiology is just a list of disorders.. is that the structure we want to copy? However, I think sections like Anatomy/Physiology and also a look at Methods in Neuroscience would be useful. Maybe also some history? I know some of this stuff is also over on the Brain page, and I'm not sure where it fits better.aelscha 00:16, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Neurosurgery
I believe that neurosuegery should be added to Fiels in neuroscience. Neurosurgeons are as important of neuroscientists as anyone else.
[edit] Online Neuroscience Textbooks
This section should probably be removed for the time-being. Currently, the links are dead. Philoprof (talk) 16:12, 8 January 2008 (UTC)Philoprof
[edit] revisions as of august 2006
This is an important article and right now it's not that great. Several things, firstly the history of neuroscience is NOT the same as the history of brain. We need someone to write a comprehensive review of the history of neuroscience. There needs to be more material, if only parsed from Kandel's text book. I've cleaned it up quite a bit. Let's try to make the section more like other major entries on disciplines. I think I'll try to use tables.
Is anyone around? I'm still not done yet with the Computational neuroscience entry. we also need a portal for neuroscience!!sluox
[edit] New Portal up and running
I would appreciate, on behalf of us three at Portal:Neuroscience if we could have some help in maintaining. Thanks. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)
[edit] AC Model Membranes
What is this? I have never heard of it? No Google hits either (except this very WP page). The content has only one line pertinent to the topic. Should it be deleted as 'non-notable'? I think so at least. Shushruth \talk page \ contribs 18:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Shushruth. I vaguely remember reading about this one but it doesn't strike me as particularly important. I'll doublecheck though. Newtonspeed 03:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Link Spam
The external links section is getting out of control. We don't need links to every graduate program or journal on the subject.
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--Selket 23:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Doctoral Degrees in Neuroscience
I know that colleges award both BAs and BSes for neuroscience, simply nobody takes a bachelor's degree in the field seriously regardless.
Universities also award both MDs and PhDs in neuroscience though, which I'd expect have very different requirements, and implications. On the other hand, I met an MD in neuroscience who does nothing but administer neuropsychiatric tests, which certainly isn't brain surgery or neuroimaging (in fact, I know more about neuroimaging than he did).
So it'd be interesting to know what the difference in neuroscientific certification across various subfields, and what privileges they bring (like diagnostic and prescriptive powers).--71.192.116.13 (talk) 05:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
