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[edit] Ness

i'm only going to say this once i't impossible to win super smash bros. with 3 lives and normal mode without contiues to get Ness i've tried it and I got KOed in the last round.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.141.174.243 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 2005 August 7.

It's not impossible, it's just harder; many people can beat the game on Very Hard mode with one life, without continuing. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:25, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

i agree with link to the past; i am a master with ness, and i can go 1 life with ness on very hard and beat bowser with 300%damage.:~) Legend of zelda- ocarania of time

[edit] Pictures

It should be clarified that the pictures in the right index aren't what Ness in the actual game looks like, and that's just the official art. E946 09:35, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ness's preliminary name?

I could be wrong, but does anybody else remember a Nintendo Power preview of Earthbound that listed Ness's name as "Will"? I could swear I saw this. The same article also spelled Poo's name "Pu." If this is correct, I think it should be included in the article Kidicarus222 07:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I haven't seen it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Before Earthbound's release outside of Japan, there was a lot of hype in Nintendo Power, and they were originally calling Giygas "Geek". Also, Pu is basically the Romaji spelling of Poo, and was just a mistranslation. Nevertheless, I don't think this is that noteworthy... Xubelox 07:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Melee picture

Someone decided to vandalise and replaced Ness's Smash picture with his original sprite. Could someone reload it please? Xubelox 05:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uh, contradiction?

"While Ness is one of the best characters to play as in Super Smash Bros. Melee, he is ironically very low on the tier list"

That doesn't make any sense. Maybe the person meant that Ness was good in SSB, but not very good in SSBM?

That's exactly what he meant. Like Kirby, Ness was ludicrously overpowered in SSB, so he was toned down for SSBM... but in Ness's case, some of his moves were made stronger, changing him from a "Cheapskate" to a "Combo King." I know what I'm talking about, because I'm really skilled at using Ness in SSBM! --Luigifan 03:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't Wikipedia articles refrain from inserting personal opinion? At least the text should be rephrased to emphasize that it is popular opinion among many people that Ness is considered a low tier character in SSBM. I personally use Ness as my primary character, and I know that those who are particularly skilled with Ness are extremely powerful. GuardianAtomos 01:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion to move Ness to Ness ( video game character )

I believe that Ness should be moved and replaced with the disambiguation page as I don't think the current page is of greater importance than the disambguation page. Jamesmorrison 20:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

A more fitting move would be to Ness (Nintendo), but in order for that to happen, perhaps you should take the discussion to WikiProject Nintendo. Given that this same thing happened to Bowser, I'm not sure what your reception will be. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 21:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MP

It says that PP is analogous to MP, but I strongly disagree. Maybe it is if you compare it to fantasy games, but who said fantasy games are the "standard" of rpg's. Who said that the two basic stats of HP and MP are the "default" setup of rpg's as a whole. PP is entirely different, measuring the characters psionic abilities. That is one thing that made the game so unique; it was spiritual but at the same time based on science fiction concepts. So PP is not the "equivalent" of MP, and i think that saying so only makes the unique setting of earthbound seem more nonchalant when compared to other video games.

I think it's fair to say that PP is analogous to MP. Nobody said that they're the exact same thing, but to those who are unfamiliar with the series, it helps to communicate the fact that PP is expended to perform PSI (aka, non-physical, "magical") skills just like MP is expended in most RPGs to perform magic. In fact, that's exactly what analogous means: "comparable in certain respects, typically in a way that makes clearer the nature of the things compared." Whether you want to believe it or not, the Mother series is in the RPG genre, so it makes sense to make comparisons based on other elements that are typically seen as common to RPGs. Making this analogy doesn't detract from the distinctiveness. GuardianAtomos (talk) 01:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Alec is Ness"

Is there proof of this claim (last sentence regarding Ness' references in Mother 3)? I can't find anything backing this up, and considering the time period of Mother 3, I think this might be fake. Ironically, the statement says that it was "proven" yet without reference. GuardianAtomos 14:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I simply removed it. Akthawonder030 didn't provide any citation the last time they added it, either. Dancter 17:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

Ive changed the redirect from List_of_EarthBound_characters#Ness to Ness (disambiguation) which includes a link to the former along with various other "Ness" articles and related articles which previously did not show up in a search due to this page redirecting straight to List_of_EarthBound_characters#Ness. siarach 10:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)