User talk:Neozoon

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Please leave new messages below the older ones: (I will answer on your talkpage )

Contents 1 RfA thanks 2 ACM Multimedia 3 WP:CORP 4 RE:AFD 5 ME/CVS Vereniging 6 Your recent edits 7 Radlands - Antwort

[edit] RfA thanks

		With thanks!
		Thanks for participating in my RfA, which closed successfuly. I leave you with a picture of the real Blood Red Sandman! Note his 'mop' is slightly deadlier than mine! - - Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ACM Multimedia

You may want to challenge my reponse to your AfD vote. I ask that you consider my argument and change your vote to merge. Robert K S 05:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CORP

Regards this edit, WP:CORP is more important for notability than 'gut' feeling. I can't read dutch, but the organization appears to be mentioned only once, just before the end of the page. Also, the writing quality, and 'usefulness' are not relevant to notability. However, if you can add more links that are relevant regards WP:CORP (pretty much the only relevant things in an AFD discussion for an organization), then the article may still pass. Remember, per WP:CORP, it must be relevant coverage in a reliable, independent, secondary source. Per WP:CORP, notability is not synonymous with 'importance'. Please review the policy and base your search for sources on that - it will save you time and effort! WLU 22:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm posting it here because it clutters up the AFD page for no real purpose - most of the people already know this so there's no point reminding them. You said:

** comment Hello WLU, thanks for your message on my discussion page. I can read dutch and I find the organization appear on all the relevant pages that deal with patient organizations and ME/CVS. I see things in a bigger context. What does Wikipedia loose when this article gets deleted? Will Wikipedia be a better place when this article about an organisation that works for raising attention to the illness of few people with little engery is deleted? The organization is mentioned in Newspaper articles, sends out press releases, has its own printed news magazin that is quoted by others. I started to edit the article and the quotations. Deleting this page just feels wrong :-) Neozoon 01:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:CORP, WP:AFD, WP:N and Wikipedia in general is not about raising awareness, being a better place or 'feeling right', it's about what is notable and encyclopedic. Many things are important, very important to some people, but not everyone gets their own page. WP:NOT deals with what should not be on wikipedia. For one thing, it is not a soapbox, irrespective of how sad or disabling a condition is; if ME/CVS Veren. is notable, as defined in our policies and to the world at large, it will get a page eventually. If it is not, it should not be on wikipedia. Further, by posting opinions on the AFD pages that are not related to policy (the reason why pages are, or are not kept), you are essentially wasting your time and wearing out your keyboard. Any dedicated contributor (like the admin who will delete or keep the page in question) will consider arguments that do not address policy to be irrelevant, and ignore them. If you truly wish the page to be kept, put your efforts into finding sources that are reliable and notable so the page passes WP:CORP. That's worth a hundred edits on the AFD page. The line 'article now passes WP:CORP because of (link)' will do far more to help the page and keep it on wikipedia than all the tugging at heartstrings in the world. I don't say this to be sarcastic or disparage your efforts or intent (I'm in a hurry so I can't really soften it up, sorry!) just to point you in the direction of most efficient efforts. Wikipedia and AFD are not about voting, so always refer to policy. Just my advice, take it for what it's worth (could be nothing :) WLU 01:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply on your talkpage Neozoon 22:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:AFD

I was unfamiliar and didn't know about the person that the article was about, the lack of references made me think it was non-notable. It was my mistake and poor judgment for putting that on AfD. Sorry. Marlith ^T/C 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ME/CVS Vereniging

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, the article was still deleted. I have requested undeletion here. Regards, Guido den Broeder 13:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Radlands - Antwort

Kein Problem! Meine Meinung ist dass es sehr wichtig ist, beachtenswerte Artikel zu bewahren. ( sorry for my grammar, I'm still only a beginner :) ). EJF (talk) 16:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)