Talk:Neopaganism in the United States

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[edit] 4.5 million (1990) to 10 million (2000s) Neopagans in the US

  • David Waldron. Witchcraft for Sale! Commodity vs. Community in the Neopagan Movement. Nova Religio. August 2005, Vol. 9, No. 1.

Could someone read the study and prove the accuracy of this statement? --Esimal 18:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

these numbers appear highly dubious. The 10 million claim is taken from religioustolerance.org, which in turn attributes it to a 1989 source quoting a 1986(!) source,
Sharon Rufus, "WHO ARE THE WITCHES?", Fate (1986 AUG), P. 59: quoted by Nelson Price in "NEW AGE, THE OCCULT AND LION COUNTRY", Power Books (1989), P. 98:
which in turn says the World Christian Encyclopedia (1982) claims 10 million pagans. So, to begin with, this number can hardly be applied to 2000. If the 1982 World Christian Encyclopedia really claims 10 million, it is just parroting pie-in-the-sky numbers, twisting them in connotation to alarmism. The 2001 ARIS number of 300,000 and the 1999 "Covenant of the Goddess" estimate of 770,000 for USA plus Canada, are much more plausible. The (neopagan) CoG poll is in striking agreement with the (neutral) ARIS number. Waldron (if reported accurately) deviates by a factor of 20(!), which makes him rather suspect too. Since Waldron's article concerns the "vibrant subcultures" associated in one way or another with Wicca, I can only surmise his 10 million number is intended to gesture at this wider context. I suggest we can use Waldron to point to a larger sympathetic subculture, but we should consider the ARIS and CoG figures as authoritative (at least, as authoritiative as any such number is going to be). --dab (𒁳) 20:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
The date of WCE claim is not relevant. Waldron's study is reliable, and the most recent available. --Esimal (talk) 09:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is the ten million number even in this article at all?

It has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. AnonMoos (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)