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We need to create a Hip Hop-Soul talk page. On the Hip Hop-Soul article the hiephen is in the wrong place_wus up wit dat? My major question is if Neo Soul is 70s Soul elements mixed with Alternative Hip Hop elements, and Hip Hop-Soul is 90s urban contemporary, then what name should be given to the un-named sounds of today's scene? Both Tweet and Jahiem use 1970s elements in their songs. What is you talkin' about bro? ~Jack D. 11:03UTC 8/2/05

The nmae for the "unnamed sounds" is R&B. The hyphen is in the correct place ("hip-hop soul" is the correct spelling, you can't hyphenate a compound word with another compound word). And Jahiem should not be on this list; in reguards to her first album (the album tracks, not the singles), Tweet can remain but, after hearing her second album, I'm thinking that she might have crossed over to pure R&B. --FuriousFreddy 14:47, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

I've only really heard it called neo-soul, but that might just be me... --STLEric 22:58, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Me too. Is it called "nu soul" outside of the United States? Over here, it's never been called anything but "neo soul". --b. Touch 09:14, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Cleanup

This article seems preoccupied with discussing how poorly neo-soul records have performed in mainstream pop venues. It needs to be re-written, as mainstream chart success is hardly ever a goal of most of these artists anyways, who find substantial success on the R&B charts. --FuriousFreddy 20:44, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Done. Also, I removed a few artists from the list who are not neo-soul aritsts (Tweet and Jahiem are plain R&B artists). Also, this page needs to be moved to neo soul. --FuriousFreddy 21:20, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Can we please rename the heading "Lack of mainstream success"? As mentioned, mainstream success is simply not a goal of most neo-soul artists. It is also inaccurate; Maxwell's three albums have all gone platinum, as well as both of D'Angelo's and Anthony Hamilton's first album. In what sense is that unsuccessful?

[edit] NeoSoul Music Genre

I have an aunt who is very into the church, an chooses to listen to none other than gospel. A christian friend of ours told me that neosoul was more or less "bad." I would like to know if neosoul has anyhting to do with religion.

[edit] Artist Category

Instead of the list of singers all being packed onto this page, there should be a "List of Neo-Soul Artists" category. FamousBobby 23:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blatant Promotion

"Other more underground Neo Soul Artists such As Juliette Leon continue to work in the Genre of Neo Soul bringing independent labels into the forefront http://www.myspace.com/julietteleon"

I have removed this attempt at shamless self-promotion.

[edit] Dwele

What about Dwele? Darion Brockington? well at least Dwele belongs mentioned!!!

[edit] 1999 grammy's

According to The Envelope (an L.A. Times website), Lauryn Hill was only nominated for two grammys and she did not win any.

Whatever that article is, it is definately wrong as she won 5 Grammy's, which can be considered a sweep. That article is actually for the 2000 Grammy's, despite the fact that it says 1999, you can see all of the awards match up to the 2000 Grammy's.

[edit] Name

Is the genre's name neo soul or neo-soul? Both the hyphenated version and the non-hyphenated version are used in the article. The title itself says neo soul. The article needs uniformity.--NPswimdude500 (Talk|Contribs) 02:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hip-Hop Connection

Is this genre 100% linked with Hip-Hop/Rap? Not all Neo-Soul acts have hip-hop connections e.g. Jamiroquai. I got a CD Called 'Nu Soul Sessions' today, and I descovered that some of the artists share more of a likeness to 70's Funk-Soul or something along the lines of Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye. The general stereotype of the genre is defined with artists like Lauryn Hill and D'Angelo, that do use hip-hop elements in their songs. Have you heard of DJ Spinna? His neo-soul stuff has more in common with House music.


[edit] Going Mainstream

Someone must have been angry when they wrote the 3rd paragraph of this section, it's way to biased. In need of a rewrite. I didn't read the whole thing, just skimmed randomly so I don't know about the rest —Preceding unsigned comment added by SFboy09 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tony! Toni! Tone!?!?!?

Where would anyone get the idea that Tony Toni Tone had any role in the development of this genre?! The music clearly began in Britain in the 1980s. Soul II Soul, Brand New Heavies, Omar, and (arguably) Sade were the artists who broke through from what appears to have been a mid-late 80s underground scene in London. It wasn't until 1995 that Raphael Saadiq produced D'Angelo; Tony x 3 was his mainstream pop-R&B group. How did this info come about, that they were neo-soul? Bricksoul (talk) 03:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)Bricksoul.