Talk:Nelson Mandela
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[edit] Response to discussion and some notes
1. "So, it's a no-go for project codename "Night of the Long Knives"/"Uhuru", then?" and "Actually, how widespread is the belief in this obvious urban myth? Is it an isolated internet phenomenon (and, by knowing it, proof that I need to get a life) or is it more widespread among the general Afrikaner public? Is it even worthy of mention in the article?"
Yes - it is worthy of a mention. This is not just an internet phenomenon as I personally know many South Africans who are aware of it. It is not substantiated however so although it might be worthy of a mention it shouldn't be labelled as fact because there is no evidence to support this.
2. On Mandela being labelled a terrorist. He is a terrorist and should be classified as such. Evidence: "UMKHONTO WE SIZWE MANIFESTO, 1961
The government has interpreted the peacefulness of the movement as weakness. The people's non-violent policies have been taken as a green light for government violence. Refusal to resort to force has been interpreted by the government as an invitation to use armed force against the people without any fear of reprisals. The methods of Umkhonto we Sizwe mark a break with that past."
Does this not formally declare an end to peaceful and non-violent protest?
Secondly; From the ANC's website:
"In 1961 Umkhonto we Sizwe was formed, with Mandela as its commander-in-chief. In 1962 Mandela left the country unlawfully and travelled abroad for several months. In Ethiopia he addressed the Conference of the Pan African Freedom Movement of East and Central Africa, and was warmly received by senior political leaders in several countries. During this trip Mandela, anticipating an intensification of the armed struggle, began to arrange guerrilla training for members of Umkhonto we Sizwe."
Surely if the man was against violence, which he himself has stated he wasn't, then why would he be arranging guerrilla training within two years of forming MK?
3. Mandela singing song about killing White People? "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKiePbTcAfY&feature=related Is it true or just but translation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cesarz (talk • contribs) 03:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)"
Yes, this is one of the anthems of MK. And yes, it's Mandela singing it.
212.42.190.101 (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- The Uhuru article has been deleted -- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operation Uhuru. Seemed to be primarily for sourcing/POV concerns- I'm sure a good article could be written on the subject. John Nevard (talk) 21:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bob Marley Song
Is the song by Bob Marley where it goes "Bring back Nelson Mandela, bring him back home to ...." Is that a cover? If it's not it should added to the song list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.212.64.234 (talk) 03:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Honours
I think some should have his Honours in precedence on the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.61.232 (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nobel Prize logo
Is there a reason why the gold medal Nobel Prize logo is not above the picture? It is there on other prize winners. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.134.245 (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Formatting Problems with page.
I just want to put a call out. There seems to be a few various formatting in this page and one of the info-blocks. I readily admit I'm not terribly familiar with Wiki Markup, but anyone else who is, if you could take a look, that'd be great.
The problem does present itself in multiple browsers, so I know it's not just that. BuShroom (talk) 00:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nelson Mandela Place
Should be noted that there is also a Nelson Mandela Place in Glasgow City Centre.91.125.37.91 (talk) 02:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- It's already noted, on List of Nelson Mandela awards and honours. Zaian (talk) 13:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Birth date
I think nelson's birthdate is July 25,1918. (incorrectly stated as July 18)... why do you guys think? source:[1]
Shalom, Geper acsian (talk) 11:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] typo
On the introduction area, the last sentence writes Nelson beMandela. Please fix that.
Anu-san (talk) 21:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Anu-san
[edit] GCStJ
Mandela, as a Bailiff Grand Cross of the Order of St John (http://www.orderofstjohn.org/uploads/PDF/newsletters/the_linkissue_14.pdf) is entitled to the post nominal GCStJ, so this could possibly be added in.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.6 (talk) 19:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
