Talk:Neighborhoods in San Francisco, California

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[edit] Chamber of Commerce list

The San Francisco chamber of commerce lists the following neighborhoods: Alamo Square, Anza Vista, Ashbury Heights, Bernal Heights, Bayview/Hunters Point, Buena Vista Hill, Castro, Cow Hollow, Crocker Amazon, Downtown/Financial District, Duboce Triangle, Eureka Valley, Excelsior, Forest Hill, Glen Park, Golden Gate Heights, Haight Ashbury, Hayes Valley, Ingleside, Jordan Park's, Lake, Lakeshore, Laurel Heights, Marina, Mission, Mission Bay (also known as Mission Rock, Mission Creek and China Basin), Mt. Davidson Manor, Nob Hill, Noe Valley, North Beach, Pacific Heights, Parkside, Portola Heights, Potrero Hill, Presidio Heights, Richmond, Russian Hill, Sea Cliff, Sherwood Forest, South Beach, South of Market (Soma), St. Francis Wood, Sunset, Telegraph Hill, Twin Peaks, Western Addition, West Portal and Yerba Buena.

Many of these are not listed.

A much more comprehensive list can be derived from the districts that the Real Estate agents use.



Many of the sections are just links to main articles. Summaries should be provided for them. -Pwnage8 20:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Maps?

This list of neighbourhoods in san francisco is only good if you know them. How about a map showing where each one is in relation to each other? 195.157.84.178 14:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I had been looking for a suburban map which is free to use but couldnt find one. this doesnt have enough detail. Would any of the maps at the library of congress be of any use? --Astrokey44 11:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Maps

[edit] Random question

In 1950 I lived in a home high atop Bernal Heights Hill. There were two homes on that hill and they were older. There was also a siren that went off periodcly I think they rented for $15.00 a month. I see no reference to these homes. If there is information on it, Please direct me.

June 7, 2006 12:24pm

Linda, email: tadpole1747@yahoo.com

[edit] Merge articles on smaller neighborhoods into articles for bigger ones?

There are nearly 70 articles in the neighborhoods in San Francisco template and on the list, many of which are stubs and/or are for very small areas (And I'm guilty of being the one to create many of them). Some of them are about areas that aren't associated with neighborhoods, like Golden Gate Park, Ocean Beach and Yerba Buena Island. I already merged the Inner Sunset article with the main Sunset article, and some others could be combined, like Cow Hollow and Marina, Laguna Honda and Forest Hill, South Beach and Mission Bay and Theater District and Union Square.

I don't know what to do with the south-western part of the city, though. There are (short) articles on the Ingleside and Park Merced and Merced Manor is on the list and template, but there is no Oceanview or Lakeside article. All of those areas are pretty small anyway, and there isn't much to put in an article about them individually. I don't know if there should be one or two big articles on all of them combined or what.

I would make those changes myself, but there are enough of them that I wont do it without there being some discussion on it. Octoferret 10:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea. We have many articles which are compendiums of that type, such as Santa Monica neighborhoods and High Schools of San Diego. As material develops about individual areas they can split off into new articles. Meanwhile, the clutter of one-sentence articles is reduced. I say "Go for it!" Will Beback 10:21, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I created a test page like those two and have it at User:Octoferret/Neighborhoods in San Francisco for now. The organization and neighborhoods listed on it need some work, but if they are, the Neighborhoods in San Francisco could be like that. Octoferret 14:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I finished the page I was working on and copied it here. It would have been too big if I included descriptions for neighborhoods that have articles, so I just have the link there. User:Octoferret/Neighborhoods in San Francisco still has some of those with the descriptions. The way the neighborhoods are organized probably could be improved, but there isn't an easy way to divide them up into north/south/east/west or anything. Also, I might merge some of the really short neighborhood articles, like the Ingleside and Sunnyside, into this article and they could stay here until someone exapnds the information on them Octoferret 14:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not kill the neighborhood stubs. There was no reason to nuke the cole valley article and incorporate it into the topic. I would encourage you to add content and not delete content with whatever notion you have of cleaning this up. You should only remove content you know to be inaccurate. Assume otherwise it is there for a good reason. Thanks! It would be nice if you could restore the other neighborhood pages you destroyed.Paul E. Ester 14:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Good job. -Will Beback 19:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SFgov.org's list

There is a list of neighborhoods on SFGOV.org, along with maps. I didn't see any defined boundaries, at least from what I saw. Please note that SFGOV, a.k.a. the "Official San Francisco City and County Web Site", is copyrighted, even though of course it's public information. I'd especially be concerned about the use of their GIS data. --Geopgeop 11:42, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

There are official boundaries through GIS mapping if you turn on the "neighborhoods" layer. GIS does disclaim the accuracy of their data but there's no problem in quoting the graphical boundaries in prose, and the maps can be used as the basis for a unique self-made drawing. – Zedla (talk) 06:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where is downtown

I think there should be a listing for whatever is considered "downtown" with mention of it in the intro. -- SEWilco (talk) 22:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The city alternately considers Downtown to be synonymous only with the Tenderloin (property records, see [1]) or to center around Union Square (separate from the Tenderloin, [2]) – Zedla (talk) 07:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)