Talk:NearlyFreeSpeech.NET
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[edit] Written like an Advertisement
I'm the major author of what's currently in this article. I see that some one has tagged this article with a "written like an advertisement" tag without posting any comments or explanation. Although I am a customer of the hosting company in question, I made an effort to list both drawbacks and features when describing the company in the article specifically to make it not sound like an ad. Could I get some feedback on what specifically is the issue? Otherwise perhaps the tag ought to be removed. 71.191.253.181 (talk) 05:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
I removed it. If anyone thinks it should go back up please cite exactly why you believe it to be the case. Without an explanation no one can improve the article 71.163.131.225 (talk) 02:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of websites
Is there any benefit to listing website hosted here, major or otherwise? Do other articles about web hosts also list hosted websites? Zr40 (talk) 21:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I reviewed most of the other pages under Category:Web hosting and they include news, sources of funding, reason for existence, etc. I suppose NearlyFreeSpeech.net has (indirectly) a reason for existence to host "Free Speech" pages. However, that is not currently clear in the article, and no other web hosting pages list websites, at all. This not only gives the incorrect impression that NearlyFreeSpeech.net only hosts the sites listed, but also that NearlyFreeSpeech.net is somehow affiliated with the sites listed. Therefore, I think the article is inaccurate. Dch24 (talk) 22:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Im not sure what youre saying ,sorry. All I ahve to say is that when I first created the article I specified that they were a host for controversial websites, based on my impression of what sites I was able to find on it, but someone came along and deleted that part. The reason I created this article in the first place is as a source of amusement. If you think it has to go, then that's fine with me, but I would like to at least mention iBuyStrays somewhere on Wikipedia. Haplolology Talk/Contributions 23:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Disregarding the issue of whether the list itself should stay or go, I doubt this is the right place to describe hosted websites in detail. If you want to mention iBuyStrays somewhere on Wikipedia, create an article about it. Zr40 (talk) 00:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- But it's not really big enough for an article of its own and the most likely article to link to it from would be this one. Haplolology Talk/Contributions 01:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- What about Animal testing? (Or there are others) Dch24 (talk) 01:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Size doesn't matter. You can always mark the article as a stub. Zr40 (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- If these sites aren't big/interesting enough for entries of their own, what makes them 'major sites' worth mentioning in this article anyway? Jac124.171.79.205 (talk) 03:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- But it's not really big enough for an article of its own and the most likely article to link to it from would be this one. Haplolology Talk/Contributions 01:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Disregarding the issue of whether the list itself should stay or go, I doubt this is the right place to describe hosted websites in detail. If you want to mention iBuyStrays somewhere on Wikipedia, create an article about it. Zr40 (talk) 00:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't believe a list of hosted sites are appropriate. A survey of some of the other web host provider with articles in wikipedia show no similar lists (found via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_hosting):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aplus.Net http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLM.net http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTT_Europe_Online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telehouse_Docklands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WestHost
If the intent is illustrate what sets NFS apart from other providers this might be a good place to gather material: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/belief2002.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maphew (talk • contribs) 20:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
IMHO leave the list, but remove any site that doesn't have a wiki article of its own. That way the list is really only for information, not as a link directory of sorts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.217.234 (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I think we should just delete the list. If NearlyFreeSpeech.net wants a list of hosted sites, they can create such a site list somewhere at http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net. Related Wikipedia articles (but not URLs) would be OK. Dch24 (talk) 07:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I'm embarrassed
I'm the one who started this article and put in most of the sites in the sites-hosted section. My main goal was to get a place to talk about iBuyStrays, which to me is a very amusing site (I try to see the humor in everything), but it's been pointed out to me that the site is in fact a hoax set up to outrage the general public and therefore I have lost all interest in it. I'm embarrassed. I vote delete. Haplolology Talk/Contributions 18:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to suggest that having a list of sites is quite useful. I came across NFSN recently as a potential host of our (small) company website, which is currently being hosted at one of the big but rather annoying host-farms. I like much of what they have to say, but they don't share much in terms of their size, client-list, success and such. Finding this Wiki article and specifically the list helped give me a bit of insight as to what their philosophy actually means in reality. I just wish the list also included some corporate clients (do they have any?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.184.140 (talk) 14:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
