Template talk:NCAATeamSeason
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[edit] Change?
Everything is in 2 columns now... can we change it back?CJC47 04:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. This at least fixed the orange/green colors that suddenly occurred with no change to the template (eg, they changed something behind the scenes with the wiki software that caused it). I'm trying to figure it out. --MECU≈talk 13:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Everythings fixed. They did change something because they had to fix the NFL Player infobox template too. But, it doesn't matter now, all fixed. --MECU≈talk 13:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Division?
I see the attribute Division but I do not see where it is being used in the actual template.--NMajdan•talk 13:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- All fixed. I must have accidentally removed it when tweaking things. Thanks for pointing it out. --MECU≈talk 16:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Optional ImageSize Added
I have added the optional field of ImageSize. It will default to 150px if not specified. If you do specify, just put the number of px without px, ie "100" and not "100 px". --MECU≈talk 16:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] BCS?
Can you add a heading for BCS ranking? I guess it should go above the Coach's and AP polls. z4ns4tsu\talk 17:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't add BCS since it doesn't come out with a "final" poll: one that is after the bowl games and therefore doesn't represent the complete season. Therefore, it should/would only be used during the season. Further, the coding required to add a third option would be three times as complex as the current coding. Not that it's not impossible, but for such a limited use I didn't think it was worth my effort. If there is enough people who think differently that I, that the BCS should be used during the season, than I shall, but I can't promise to even start working on it for a few weeks. But it would then be useful for all future seasons. Anyone else is welcome to do it if they want to. --MECU≈talk 23:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "no image" bug?
If you use this template but do not specify an image, "[[Image:|150px]]" appears at the top of the box displayed in the article. Was this intentional, or is this a bug that has not yet been addressed? (See my user page for a visual example) - Godfoster 11:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Fixed. Not sure how that happened, it certainly wasn't planned. Thanks for bringing it up. Though I think it should always use an image. --MECU≈talk 14:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Previous/Next season?
What is everyone's opinion on adding a 'Previous/Next season' section to the bottom of the template? We have a couple options as far as implementing it. If its a required field, then the previous year or next year would be a red link if the article is not created. Or if its not a required field, then the next season indicator would exist only if the article exists. I'm thinking something like this at the bottom of the template:
Previous season | Next season | |
2005 | 2007 |
What do you think?--NMajdan•talk 16:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm fine with red links. I don't think it even needs to be a field, and it could just be calculated from the current year that is a required field, so it would always be there and be automatic. --MECU≈talk 16:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea to me. z4ns4tsu\talk 17:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Done. --MECU≈talk 17:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Only two problems I noticed after loading the 2006 Oklahoma Sooners football team page: 1) it isn't centered and 2) the text is too big. I'd change it myself, but I don't want to break the template. z4ns4tsu\talk 18:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Done. --MECU≈talk 17:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea to me. z4ns4tsu\talk 17:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Template cleanup
I think I finally got it. I cleaned up the code in the template by removing all the HTML table tags (<td><tr><th>) and replacing them with wiki markup. Took a lot more work than expected. Also, I vertically aligned some of the elements.--NMajdan•talk 17:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Template problem
Along the right-hand side of the box created by the template, there is a gap in the outline of the box next to the Previous Season/Next Season portion of the template. Given the warning at the top of the page, I am not about to try to fix the template. Could someone please take a look at it?--Tlmclain | Talk 21:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm, well I didn't see any issues upon first look but I thought I'd take a look at the template in IE and sure enough, I see it. I'll see if I can fix it. Thanks for letting me know.--NMajdan•talk 21:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think I got it. Can you tell me if it looks fixed to you?--NMajdan•talk 22:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Font size
I reduced the font size for the template down to 90%. I think it looks better, but if others don't, the change can be reverted. I felt the template was almost too much of a focus and I, personally, like infoboxes to have smaller font size.--NMajdan•talk 18:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Basketball
Perhaps a major contributor to this template would be willing to create a basketball equivalent? {{NCAATeamBasketballSeason}}, perhaps? I'd suggest making a generic sports season template, but sports are very specific in awards, scores, and end-of-season games that separate templates sound like a better idea. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 03:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'll work on one today if nobody has started yet. I'll keep you up to date on my progress.↔NMajdan•talk•EditorReview 13:55, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- 1st draft up at User:Nmajdan/Test. Also, I might be able to work this template to have both football and basketball. We'll see.↔NMajdan•talk•EditorReview 14:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Basketball bug
On the previous season/next season bit at the bottom for basketball, it should reflect the naming convention to list the year range. Example: on 2006-07 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets men's basketball team, it should have the previous season link to 2005-06 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets men's basketball team and the next season link to 2007-08 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets men's basketball team. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, it should. I think I got this fixed. If anybody ever creates a women's page, the template will need to be modified again. Let me know if it is fixed.↔NMajdan•talk 17:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- My main beef was the year issue. Instead of 2007 it's 2006-07 and instead of 2008 it's 2007-08, etc. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 04:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ahhhhh...... I thought you were referring to the addition of "men's" which was still needed but I understand now. I'll see what I can do.↔NMajdan•talk 12:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I got it fixed but its not automatic like football is. I had to add separate variables. I tried not to but the functions I would need to make it automatic (m:StringFunctions and m:VariablesExtension) are apparently not apart of WikiMedia's software. So, until those are added, they will be manual. If there are ever added, I will go back and rework the template.↔NMajdan•talk 13:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ahhhhh...... I thought you were referring to the addition of "men's" which was still needed but I understand now. I'll see what I can do.↔NMajdan•talk 12:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- My main beef was the year issue. Instead of 2007 it's 2006-07 and instead of 2008 it's 2007-08, etc. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 04:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ranking
As I was making 2005 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets football team, I noticed that {{CFB Schedule Start}} links to that year's rankings page; for example, the 2005 team is linked to 2005 NCAA Division I-A football rankings. I think it'd be a good feature if it could also be linked in the yearly infobox where it says "Rank." I don't know of any yearly rankings pages for other sports, but if they exist, I suppose they should be linked too. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:26, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Baseball?
Hey, I was wondering if anyone has or could quickly make a baseball template, like the normal fb/bb ones but with pitching coach and batting coach instead of Off/Def coordinators(mastrchf91) 03:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image
Ed strikes again. I reverted his change because I feel the image in the article meets the non-free image use criteria.↔NMajdan•talk 19:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- "Ed strikes again" - there's no need to take that tone; be civil. The logos are not being used for critical commentary and they are not year-specific so they are not of unique significance to the article. Use of a logo outside it's main article is generally unnecessary (unless it is being discussed). ed g2s • talk 20:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- My interpretation of WP:LOGO#Guidelines permits the usage of a team's logo if the team is being discussed, which in this case it is. If the image has sufficient rationale, then it should be allowed on a page where the team that sports that logo is receiving critical commentary. This is the first I've ever heard of "year specificity" in relation to non-free images or logos.↔NMajdan•talk 20:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- That has never been the case. Logos are routinely removed from any article where they don't have a specific rationale (i.e. all but the main article). There may be a need to have the logo somewhere on Wikipedia - but I have seen no justifications for use simply because a team is mentioned. ed g2s • talk 20:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- The articles this template is attached to don't just "mention" a team, they attempt to encompass all parts of what went into that team's performance for a specific season. They are as much about the team as the main article is. If this is as routine as you say, can you provide links to recent diffs? z4ns4tsu\talk 21:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'll agree with you on the issue that there is no justification when a team is just mentioned. But this is more than a mention. This is an entire article on that specific team. I don't see how this is different then on the main sports article. I do not see how this violates any rule regarding non-free images or logos.↔NMajdan•talk 21:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- That has never been the case. Logos are routinely removed from any article where they don't have a specific rationale (i.e. all but the main article). There may be a need to have the logo somewhere on Wikipedia - but I have seen no justifications for use simply because a team is mentioned. ed g2s • talk 20:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- In addition, I believe you are once again acting unilaterally on an issue that has not received community consensus but are basing your actions on your own preconceived notion of how Wikipedia should be which clashes with others' views. I have seen no discussion on logos on year specific articles. There are many articles where this is used in both college athletics as well as professional. Again, reading the guidelines on the WP:LOGO page, I see no issues with having the logos on these pages. Until you can point me toward a discussion where the community agreed on this course-of-action, I am again going to revert your change. If you feel this needs to be discussed, please bring it up on one of the broader discussion pages such as at WP:LOGO or WP:NONFREE. Please do not reapply your change until it has been discussed by a larger audience.↔NMajdan•talk 20:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- My interpretation of WP:LOGO#Guidelines permits the usage of a team's logo if the team is being discussed, which in this case it is. If the image has sufficient rationale, then it should be allowed on a page where the team that sports that logo is receiving critical commentary. This is the first I've ever heard of "year specificity" in relation to non-free images or logos.↔NMajdan•talk 20:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: I support User:NMajdan's actions. The team in question is unlikely to take punitive action against the use of its logo in our educational forum, so there isn't anything to worry about. The use of the logo in the context described above is well thought out. Badagnani 21:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- I support the use of the logo. Just because our coverage has expanded to multiple pages does not mean that only one such page should be selected to display the logo. If a sports program has multiple teams that use one logo, then the logo makes sense on the pages of each team. For instance, the Nebraska logos belongs on Nebraska Cornhuskers football as well as on Nebraska Cornhuskers. Johntex\talk 23:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Discussion now also taking place at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Logos.↔NMajdan•talk 23:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Football previous/next year
Could someone change the template to allow me to pick the previous and next seasons instead of figuring them out for me? That's fine as a default mode, but it would be nice to be able to override that behavior, especially when dealing with a teams first ever season (I'd like to be able to tell it that there are no previous seasons) or when a season or two went by without the team playing at all. Gopherguy 02:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)