Talk:NCAA Division I-A National Football Championship/Archive 2008
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Also: While I am not very good at editing, Washington should be recognized as co-champions if not more in 1960. Helms went back and named Washington national champions. They went 10-1 and beat #1 Minnesota in the Rose Bowl, and the AP polls were conducted before the bowl games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.208.86.194 (talk) 11:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
There is no such thing as an NCAA Division I-A national football championship; therefore this page should either be renamed or deleted. It should become something like "Recognized national champions of NCAA Division I-A football." As worded, it is claiming that these are NCAA championships, and they are not. This page is misnamed. Bsd987 (talk) 23:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- There are also no such thing as "Recognized national champions of NCAA Division I-A football". Recognized by whom? This article explains the fact that the NCAA has never named an official national champion in Division I FBS football. Speaking of which, I agree that a name change will soon be in order. This article will eventually need to be moved to NCAA Division I FBS national football championship, and NCAA Division I-AA national football championship will eventually need to be moved to NCAA Division I FCS national football championship. The public has grown familiar with the new subdivision terms during the 2007 season, and within the next year it will become necessary to update the article names. Iowa13 (talk) 15:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
This entire article reeks of POV and needs a rewrite very, very badly. It's clearly been hijacked by the we-hate-the-BCS crowd to the point that every single paragraph reads like a propaganda statement favoring a playoff. Maybe that's to be expected in Wikipedia, but if anybody around here happens to actually want to make it read like an informational article about the history of college football's national championships instead of something that a bored sportswriter wrote in any one of the last twenty Decembers when he had nothing better to do while he's waiting for the bowl season to start, it needs a lot of work, starting with clipping away matter-of-fact references to "mythical national championships" and the intro paragraph reading like a criticism rather than a statement of what it is. I'm sure people will rant that it's somehow "relevant" and quickly point to the mythical crud rating a mid importance, but move that stuff to a criticism or controversy section instead of treating it like an academically verified fact. StiltMonster (talk) 21:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Glad you brought this up. I am currently collaborating with Gvharrier in the creation of a new By Year table that will be the most authoratative list on the Internet. It is in its final stages and can be seen on my user page. When the table is completed, I plan on overhauling the whole article. No truer words have ever been spoken than your first sentence, StiltMonster. Along with the new By Year table, there will be a new Most National Championships table and rewrites and reorginization of every section of the article. We may even move the page to NCAA Division I FBS national football championship, if I am able to convert the opponents of such a change. This article full of anti-BCS references, but it is also packed with frustration concerning the current By Year table, all of which will be put to rest by the new table. If all goes well in the coming months, this article will go from being one of Wikipedia's poorest to one of its best. Iowa13 (talk) 21:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
For a long time the D I A page was listed as NCAA Division I-A national football champions while D 1 AA and D 2 and D3 who have an actually championship game was listed NCAA Division xxx national football championship. It a small difference but one that I think at least points out that D1 A does not actually have championship game. Smith03 (talk) 22:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Strong support of the move. Considering the name changes became official with the last year, I am surprised that this article (and its info) have not been merged. I may, in the future, put a notice on the top of the main page to merge. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
