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Contents 1 Nazism and socialism - discuss and vote on which page text should appear 2 A little too long? 3 Name change? 4 Horizontal Box 5 Collapsable sections

[edit] Nazism and socialism - discuss and vote on which page text should appear

Discussions of the relationship between Fascism and socialism and Nazism and socialism keep appearing on multiple pages. On what page does the section on Nazism and socialism belong?

Fascism and ideology---Nazism in relation to other concepts---Fascism and socialism---Nazism and socialism

Please discuss and vote on this dispute at this talk page]. Thanks. --Cberlet 15:08, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A little too long?

Is it just me or has this template grown to an excessively large size? Perhaps it would be time to remove some of the less relevant articles from it. -- Nikodemos 09:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name change?

What is the issue with Vision Thing renaming this template? See: [1]. There has been no discussion of this, and it appears to be part of an idiosyncratic POV campaign. Any comments? I am reverting pending discussion.--Cberlet 19:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. He's just trying to tie together two unrelated things to promote his POV. The Nazis were economically corporatist and hated the socialists, who were also among their biggest critics. Sarge Baldy 22:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horizontal Box

The vertical box has become to long I suggest we make it horizontal at this point. Inevitably, it will only grow longer. LindaWarheads 13:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

What about making parts of it collapsible? (i.e. like Template:Korean's "show" button?) --Fastfission 01:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Here is a very ugly first attempt by someone who doesn't quite understand how this works:

Part of the Politics series on Nazism

Nazi organizations National Socialist German Workers' Party Sturmabteilung Schutzstaffel Hitler Youth Lebensborn

Nazism in history Early Nazi Timeline Hitler's rise to power Nazi Germany Night of the Long Knives Nuremberg Rallies Kristallnacht The Holocaust Nuremberg Trials Ex-Nazis and Neo-Nazism

Nazi concepts Glossary of the Third Reich Hitler's political beliefs Gleichschaltung Racial policy of Nazi Germany Führerprinzip Lebensraum Positive Christianity Volk

Nazi political parties and movements outside Germany Canadian National Socialist Unity Party German-American Bund Nasjonal Samling Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging National Socialist Bloc National Socialist League

Nazi Eugenics Nazi eugenics Aryan race Doctors' Trial German Blood Certificate Lebensborn Life unworthy of life Mischling Nazi physicians Nazi human experimentation Nazism and race Nordic theory Nur für Deutsche Nuremberg Trials Racial policy of Nazi Germany Racial purity Reich Citizenship Law Scientific racism T-4 Euthanasia Program

Related subjects Nazism and religion Nazi mysticism Nazi architecture Hitler salute Mein Kampf Swastika Völkisch movement Anti-Semitism Führer Neo-Nazism Fascism

Relevant lists Nazi Party leaders and officials Fascists Adolf Hitler books Adolf Hitler speeches SS members Living Nazis Former Nazis influential after 1945

Politics Portal   v • d • e

It's not quite there but you can't deny it uses space efficiently! --Fastfission 01:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I say we just cut down on the articles in the list. This happens with every navigation template every once in a while: people keep adding their favourite articles to it, even when they are not particularly important, until the template must be reduced in size.

For example, instead of having a whole list of Nazi eugenics articles, we could have a single link pointing to one article or list. -- Nikodemos 02:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, but where to draw the line? --Fastfission 19:39, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, the way we draw the line with most templates is by consensus of the editors working on those templates... We should use the same approach here. -- Nikodemos 02:58, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

• Make Horizontal: I think a horizontal box, at the bottom of articles is better, long-term:

• Growing vertical-boxes can upset formatting of previous articles with images;
• More Nazi-related articles arrive due to notability (Nazis started WWII);
• Cleanup is rare/unpleasant: Nazi topics are unpleasant to rewrite/condense;
• Anti-Semitism was rampant, prompting more articles, rather than cleanup;
• White supremacy links Nazism before 1912: 4 original decades of articles;

I suspect the Nazi articles will grow, like important computer software with "creeping featurism" addressing a larger user-base, so a horizontal, bottom-template allows for future growth without impacting the future vertical format of the growing list of Nazi articles. -Wikid77 14:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

• Well, it's been nearly a year and still no movement on the template. For the record, I favour the collapsible box as above. It's been implemented to good effect with the Anarchism template and looks pretty promising to me. I'm going to add the newly-created Esoteric Nazism article to the template but I'm going to compensate by removing the Völkisch movement article which has no place in the Nazism category. The völkisch movement spanned the political spectrum and if it had some input into Nazism, it also influenced anarchism and the Social Democrats. Gnostrat 21:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a problem with this new template, mainly that it just doesn't look right compared to most of the side templates. This template is strange compared to most templates, and is consistant with few other sidebar templates on wikipedia. It would be better just to revert back to the original template if not for asteatics, than for consistency. Yahel Guhan 01:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

before I restore the old box, can the supporters of this box change explain their reasons and respond to my above comment? Yahel Guhan 00:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

It's more concise, saves a lot of space on articles, and it's simply better. I think we should do this on all boxes. — EliasAlucard|Talk 12:22 09 Oct, 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I think the old template looked much better, and made the links much easier to access. It's smaller, but why does that matter? It isn't like the articles are overcrowded or anything. Yahel Guhan 03:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Current template takes too much space. Other templates are not the issue, and anyway, most people seem to think that new box is an improvement. -- Vision Thing -- 18:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

In what article? Most of the articles have plenty of spece to spare the template. Other templates are an issue, because wikipedia should be consistent throughout. As for the "most people" arguement, wikipedia is not a democracy. Yahel Guhan 03:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

It would be helpful to have a show all button, though. Zara1709 10:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree with that. A show all button would be perfect. — EliasAlucard|Talk 15:10 11 Oct, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collapsable sections

There has been considerable discussion on the issue of the collapsable sections of templates like this, such as {{social democracy}}, {{Christian Democracy}} etc. I created a centralized place for discussion about this issue here. I invite every one to participate. C mon (talk) 18:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)