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Contents 1 Welcome! 2 Welcome 3 Welcome, and reply 4 Image use policy 5 Unfamiliarity with endorsing statements 6 Help desk 7 Welcome to Esperanza! 8 Almost Barnstar 9 No help needed, but thanks 10 An Esperanzial note 11 Hey there.... 12 Thank you 13 Re: User page award nomination 14 Esperanza User Page Award 15 Another Esperanzial note... 16 quadric page 17 Disambig and Iran 18 Esperanza Elections 19 Esperanza Elections 20 My RfA 21 Using {{RD}} to direct users to the Reference Desk 22 Thanks for the coffee 23 LOG IN 24 SPOKEN WIKI 25 My RFA 26 Smurrayinchester's RFA 27 Thanks 28 J200 29 Neutral Point of View 30 Black Patch merge with Black Patch Park 31 Handsworth Park links - inconsistency 32 Links problems 33 Thanks! 34 Thank you 35 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1 36 Newcomers help page 37 Thanks 38 matrix discussion 39 I'm back from my break 40 Re : Happy Admin promotion Day 41 Many thanks 42 Re: Wikibreak 43 I could use some advice 44 Study obligations 45 Toby 46 I want my MTV 47 More help 48 Your user page 49 Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2 50 Thanks

[edit] Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Welcome

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

Here are some tips to help you get started:

• To sign your posts (on talk pages, for example) use the '~' symbol. To insert just your name, type ~~~ (3 tildes), or, to insert your name and timestamp, use ~~~~ (4 tildes).
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Good luck! -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 17:57, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome, and reply

Hello, Natalya. I too welcome you warmly to Wikipedia. Congratulations on creating your first Wikipedia article! Post anesthesia care unit is very clearly written. I hope you decide to stay and contribute.

I read your message on my user discussion page. I cannot see exactly how you got a "cut out the vandalism" message. Was it from me? The history Post anasthesia care unit shows that its only contributor has been 24.59.96.210 (talk • contribs); and the only contributions from this "anonymous" user is to that one article, so I suppose this was you! As you can see, there is no talk page for that user, so the message cannot have been intended as a response to your creation of the article. I suspect that when you saw the offending message, you were again not logged in, and using a slightly different IP address (without getting technical, on some networks your IP address is assigned dynamically and may therefore change from time to time). When you edit anonymously your edit appears to come from the IP address of the computer through which your edits reach the internet; this address may be shared by many computers. The message was probably meant for someone else who had just defaced an article. My advice is to stay logged in: then, as well as keeping credit for your contributions, you will only see messages intended for you. --RobertG ♬ talk 09:51, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image use policy

(from the Help desk)

"Not known to be copyrighted" is pretty much irrelevant. Unless an image is known not to be copyrighted that is, to be Public Domain, we treat it as if it were copyrighted, because copyright no longer depends on any explicit notice, and is automatic for most images. Unless you have evidence that an image is PD, treat it as under copyright to the creator, adn use it only if it quslifies under Fair use or if you can get a free license. DES ^(talk) 23:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. DES ^(talk) 23:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unfamiliarity with endorsing statements

I wondered when we would converse again, since our meeting on the Help desk I'm happy to see that you very active with disambiguation in Wikipedia (and thanks for setting the record straight about the Billionaire mistake I made at WP:DPL.)

I like answering questions, and I can't possibly think of a silly one :)

Generally you won't see people explicitly endorsing others statements on talk pages, but it's an idea I took from WP:RFC. Examples here and here. I just wanted to outline that my accusation wasn't trying to insult anyone - it's what a lot of us were thinking.

I don't think it's usually a part of the dispute resolution process. I think the general idea is to:

1. Get a mediator to help resolve the dispute. If this doesn't work...
2. Do a RfC to see what the wider community thinks. If this doesn't work...
3. Go to arbitration, where punishment it laid down or whatever.

Since I will make every effort to resolve the dispute quickly and without bother I thought I'd start with the endorsement and then speak to William about what he wants done (which I better do now, since I will probably sleep through his 24-hour deadline).

--Commander Keane 17:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help desk

Hi, you've just beat me to refering anon to the reference desk about the Ford Escort question. Just to let you know, we have recently created templates for convenience when dealing with such cases. Type {{RD1}} to get:

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.

Type, for example, {{RD|Science}} to get:

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [{{subst:fullurl:Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science|action=edit&section=new&editintro=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/How_to_ask}} click here]. I hope this helps.

Hope you'll find that useful. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 20:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!

Cheers, Sango123 (talk) 00:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Almost Barnstar

Hey, no problem. It's good to know I made someone happy today. Cheers. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 20:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No help needed, but thanks

Natalya you are refeshing! I don't actually need help, I was testing a new bot (for pgk), as a part of the Bootcamp IRC channel. When someone needs help they can place {{helpme}} on their userpage and Wikipedians in the #wikipedia-bootcamp (the IRC channel) will be alerted. I guess if you did want to help you could think of ways to let new users know about the template. So far we have come up with notifying them in their welcome message. Nice to speak with you as always, --Commander Keane 22:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC) P.S., maybe you would like to drop by #wikipedia-bootcamp and give us your impressions, it's still undergoing renovations.

[edit] An Esperanzial note

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower ^háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Message delivered by Rune.welsh using AWB. If you wish to recieve no further messages of this ilk, please sign your name here.

[edit] Hey there....

KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 19:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For your kind support of my Rfa, which passed. If you should ever have any complaints about my admin actions, please let me know. Also, should you ever need my help with anything, please do not hesitate to ask! Thanks again! All the best Banez 17:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User page award nomination

What an odd rule... oh, well. It's my fault for not reading. Thanks for the heads up! – ClockworkSoul 22:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza User Page Award

Hey Natalya, this is just a courtesy message letting you know that all 5 judges have selected a finalist and you may now email your scores to this week's "overseer". For convenience sake UPA Thanks KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 13:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm just going to stick this here, since any of these last few headings would have worked. Thanks for this! I kinda hate my page design, so was a little surprised to be nominated. Oh well... thanks again. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 19:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Esperanzial note...

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower ^háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
(message delivered by FireFox using AWB on Celestianpower's behalf)

[edit] quadric page

Hello,

I am quite new to wikipedia but i noticed the disambiguation remark on my watchlist. What exactly did you do? I can't find anything about quadrics when i click on that hyperlink "You can help!". Evilbu 06:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambig and Iran

Hi, I'm working on disambig project and based on your contribution to Persian link clean up and pictures in your user page I guess that you have an interest in Iran. So I tought to drop a line :) Mahanchian 22:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Elections

Hello Natalya: Thank you very much for your support on the ongoing Esperanza elections. The elections still have a few days left, but I just wanted to let you know how I appreciate the support of fellow Esperanza members. Cheers, Bratsche^talk 01:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Elections

Good morning Natalya! (Thats my choice :P) I wish to say thanks for your vote at the Esperanza elections.

I've made my way into the Advisory Committee, so if you ever need any help or have any queries about the stuff we do, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks again, KnowledgeOfSelf 09:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Natalya! A note from me too, thanks for your vote and your congratulations! Like KnowledgeOfSelf said, please let us know if there's anything we can do for you! --JoanneB 18:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

[edit] Using {{RD}} to direct users to the Reference Desk

Hi there, I've noticed you are extremely active answering questions at the Help Desk, and just wanted to bring to your attention the template that might make your job a little bit easier. The Reference Desk template allows you to use a template to direct people to the Reference desk easily. By typing {{RD}} you will get:

This type of question belongs on the reference desk. The help desk (this page) is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please follow the link to the reference desk, select the relevant topic, and post your question there. Thanks.

Just be sure to subst it! ({{subst:RD}})

If it is obvious which part of the Reference Desk the question belongs at, you can also specifying by typing {{RD|Science}} to get:

This type of question belongs on the Science section of the reference desk. The help desk (this page) is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please click here to post your question in its proper place. Thanks.

That works for all sections of the Reference Desk! Of course, if the question needs more explanation than a gentle point in the right direction, you can always add anything else you want.

I hope you find it useful! -- Natalya 19:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Extremely active, eh? I had noticed the same wording cropping up again and again. I suppose this explains it. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 21:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it will interest you both to know that for some time now there's an additional feature: Type {{RD||Engineering}} to get:

The help desk (this page) is for questions about using Wikipedia. This type of question does not belong here. Try looking for answers in the article about Engineering. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question on the reference desk. Thanks.

All of this and more at Template Talk:Reference desk. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 13:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the coffee

•  :) Danny Lilithborne 21:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LOG IN

I have repeatedly used the dialogue box to enter a new pass word, or confirm the old. The system still refuses to allow me to enter. I have done nothing against the rules. Please, who can help? --- spoongap

Did you specify an email address for your account? That is how you get a new password. If you did not specify an email address, I do not know if it will work that way for you.

If you did specify a password, you want to type your name into the "Username" field on the login page and click on the "Email new password" button. Once that happens, you should get a message saying that a new password has been sent to the email address you specified for the account. You will then get an email message giving you a new password to login with.

However, if you didn't specify an email address, this is all a moot point. When I try to email Spoongap (talk · contribs), I am told that either you did not specify a valid email address or you are not accepting email from users. Do you remember if you specified an email address when you created the account? -- Natalya 18:41, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SPOKEN WIKI

You responded to an inquiry about an Audio Upload. I am apparently not using the correct terminilogy. I want to upload a historical artifact recorded in 1966 of air combat battle sounds to , perhaps, F-105, Wild Weasel, Rolling thunder, ILLUSTRATING the real time events of these articles. That is not spoken wiki. What is it? Is it allowed? But today, worse, I cannot even log on. The system continues to disallow my pass word.---spoongap

Wikipedia:Media has information on uploading audio files. I see that you've already contacted Znode about it, and since he is the resident audio expert, you should be set. -- Natalya 18:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

[edit] Smurrayinchester's RFA

Thank you, Natalya/Archive1
	for voting in my RFA. It passed with a result of 100/1/0. Thanks for your vote! If you have any comments, please say so here. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 19:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your wishes while I was on wikibreak. They were much appreciated. Jfingers88 01:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] J200

Sorry not with you- what do I need to change back? Best Wishes, Lion King 00:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I see you changed the link back, so thank you. To change the sentence back, you are welcome to word it as I edited it, or re-word it in a way that you would like, providing it follows a neutral point of view. Let me know if you would like any help. Thanks, -- Natalya 00:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral Point of View

To state the Gibson Super Jumbo is the world's most famous acoustic guitar is like saying, the Great Wall of China is the most famous wall in the world. I don't understand the problem, as I said in my edit summary, name me one acoustic guitar that is more famous. Best wishes Lion King 01:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I do not mean to say that the Gibson J-200 is not the world's most famous guitar; I am not a guitar expert, I have not polled a sample of the entire world. I am saying that by saying "The Gibson Super Jumbo is the world's most famous acoustic guitar", a non-neutral view is being presented. If you have not already, please take a look at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. It outlines the guidelines that Wikipedia operates on a policy of always writing articles from a neutral point of view (this is one of the three content-guiding policies upon which Wikipedia operates). All articles must be written without bias or opinion, whether it be positive or negative. Just the facts. Regardless of whether or not something seems obvious, such as saying that "the Great Wall of China is the most famous wall in the world", it must be presented neutrally. It would be fine to say "the Great Wall of China is a very famous wall" or "the Great Wall of China is one of the most famous walls in the world", but asserting that it is the most famous wall in the world violates the Neutral point of view policy. Hence why the first sentence in Gibson J-200 needed to be reworded - it was nothing drastic, just a slight change to follow the policy of the entire encyclopedia. Let me know if you have any other questions. -- Natalya 02:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

You are being pedantic in the extreme. There is no wall more famous than The Great wall of China, that is a fact, it stands on it's own , nobody will challenge it. By the same token there is no acoustic guitar more famous than the J-200, fact, nobody will challenge it. If "facts" are in breach of Wiki policy, then feel free to change it but it won't be a fact anymore will it? Lion King 02:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Since you have deleted all of our conversation on your talk page, it does not seem that you are open to discussing this. Therefore, I will bring it up on the talk page of the article, as that is what it concerns. -- Natalya 04:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Black Patch merge with Black Patch Park

Dear Natalya

Can you have a look at my efforts merging Black Patch and Black Patch Park and see if the merging can now be treated as completed? Best wishes Sibadd 10:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

The merge looks good, thanks for taking care of it. My only suggestion might be to rearrange the pictures so they flow with the article a little better and don't move the contents around, but that's just a stylistic choice. :) One suggestion, you might want to employ the use of the "Show preview" button more (if you are not doing so already). That way, you can see what your edit will look like before you save the page, and if you want to change it you won't have to re-edit it, making it a bit easier.

Commander Keane had a point above about turning Black Patch into a disambiguation page (rather than a redirect) - this sounds like a good idea, and I'll bring the idea up on the talk page. Please add your thoughts. -- Natalya 15:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Handsworth Park links - inconsistency

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handsworth%2C_West_Midlands#External_links

Dear Natalya

I have been trying to achieve consistency in the links section for Handsworth Park and I give up!! What am I doing wrong! I have tried to copy in my links which appear as numbered footnotes instead of a description of the link with a blue hyperlink. I have tried using / and | in what i thought were the right places but then the link becomes irrecoverable or the words I wish to appear are cut short. What have the correct entries got that mine haven't. Thanks! Sibadd 21:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Links can be hard to work with! I've gone ahead and formatted the links on the two pages, but I'll try and explain the different ways they work so you can change them as you would like, and know for next time.

• By typing the URL of the link, you get the link as a URL.

Typing:

http://www.google.com

Makes:

http://www.google.com

• By putting the URL in single brackets, you get a numbered link.

Typing:

[http://www.google.com]

Makes:

[1]

• By putting the URL in single brackets and then putting text after the URL but still in the brackets, you get a link with whatever the text is.

Typing:

[http://www.google.com Google]

Makes:

Google

• And finally, by putting text outside of the brackets after a link, you get regular text, plus whatever you had with the brackets.

Typing:

[http://www.google.com Google], a search engine

Makes:

Google, a search engine

I hope that helps! For more information, you can take a look at the "How to link" section of [[[Wikipedia:External links#How to link|External links]]. -- Natalya 22:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links problems

Really really helpful even though it's straightforward once explained. Many thanks, Natalya Sibadd 02:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful :) -- Natalya 03:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thank you so much for awarding me my first ever Barnstar! If you ever need me, give me a holler!--Max Talk (add) • Contribs • 21:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar. It's nice to be noticed. --Go for it! 05:18, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Newcomers help page

Thanks for the advice. I'll do it from now on. :-) Akamad 21:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I was on a wikibreak for about a week already, but I'm off now. And it was relaxing, read, got outside a bit, and slept. Thanks for the message! Whopper 03:44, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] matrix discussion

Natalya, what should be done ideally regarding the matrix page is to move it to:

• Matrix (disambiguation)

Then to start a stub on the term “matrix” with a see disambiguation link at the top. I started the matrix (chemistry) stub yesterday; and I have interest in the matrix (biology) page, but essentially the word “matrix” itself should have its own page. It is a very confusing word – not just a definition – it is thick ambiguous concept in and of itself; whereby, it should have a clarity page on its own standing for the sake of the typical reader. That is, presently, if someone looks up the word matrix, wanting to know its history and general meaning they are sent directly to the disambiguation page, which provides little information. Going directly to the dictionary is little help as well. Hence, someone should start matrix as a stub (with a separate disambiguation page) then let it grow via joint contributions. Does this sound reasonable? --Sadi Carnot 01:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from, but I think you misunderstand the point of disambiguation pages. Disambiguation pages are used to direct people to the correct article when there are multiple articles with the same title. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for more information. Hence why Matrix is a disambiguation page. The only time Matrix would be moved to Matrix (disambiguation) was if there was one primary topic among all the articles. If that were the case, Matrix would be the primary topic, and would like to Matrix (disambiguation). See WP:D#Primary_topic for more information. However, that is definitly not the case here, since there are many notable topics linked to from Matrix. The page you are describing that you want to make does not really belong on Wikipedia; yes, "Matrix" is a very confusing term. That is why there is the disambiguation page, which allows people to find the exact term they are looking for. Since there are so many different uses for the word, there is not just one history and one meaning - there are many, and each is dealt with at each article linked to from the disambiguation page.

I hope I've managed to explain that semi-well. Please let me know if you have any other quesitons. -- Natalya 03:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm back from my break

Hey Natalya, thanks for the coffee, and the comments. I'm back from my break but I do not plan on being very active. Thanks again. KnowledgeOfSelf 16:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : Happy Admin promotion Day

• Thanks for your well-wishes on my admin anniversary! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 05:21, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Many thanks

Hey thank you for the message, I am now back from my longest wikibreak. At last, I couldnt miss out on April Fools! Thanks again for dropping by. All the best Banez 15:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Wikibreak

I believe I'll enjoy. Compound angle formulae and writing articles in Cantonese are both fun. --Deryck C. 07:39, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! Hope you're doing well, too! Gflores^Talk 16:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I could use some advice

I'm glad you liked the work I did on the Desk headers. Thanks for the barnstar. I'm in the midst of trying to get the Community Portal restored. I was working on it, and someone reverted it to a version that existed months ago, and then an admin came along and protected it. So I've called for a vote, which has 3 drafts to choose from (the version before the reversion, the version after the reversion, and another draft some others have been working on). I'm wondering if there isn't any stone I've left unturned. Any advice you could provide would be most appreciated. --Go for it! 00:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry too much about the Community Portal Redesign. Although I certainly don't have nearly as much exposure to it as you do, it seems like even if there is not a consensus, most users would be willing to compromise on some combination of the first two drafts. If all goes well, everything will work out, and that will not be a problem. And your hard work is much appreciated on it, even if there is disagreement! -- Natalya 02:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Study obligations

Natalya, I hope your exams will go smooth, it's just that time of the year... I'm in the similar situation but I will make it somehow. Good luck with exams! --Tone 20:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

• Natalya, all the best with your exams. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

• Good luck with your exams! Gflores^Talk 19:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toby

Thanks for your help on Toby Radloff —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigrodd (talk • contribs)

You are most welcome! Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions. -- Natalya 16:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I want my MTV

Haha! Glad you liked it :-) While posting it I was wondering whether this was one of those trees-falling-in-the-forest-when-nobody-can-hear-it type comments. Glad to hear it wasnt!

And stress, ah well, some hours off the wiki gave me some perspective. To be more precise, working on my thesis so I can go on a wonderful four week vacation in a few months time gave me some perspective!

Enough to be happy about then (not even including the WP:BSB (I'll create the link first thing tomorrow).

Nightnight, The Minister of War ^(Peace) 00:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More help

Thanks -- I do need more help, but not much. I created an article called "Superhost" but it might be better listed under "Super Host." It won't let ME move it, perhaps since I'm new. Can you help?

Also in that article, I'm getting warned that the photo will be deleted since I cannot provide copyright info -- I got the photo off the site I listed as an external link (which should be labeled better, I might add). Can you help tighten all this up if you have time, so that the picture if labeled and not deleted?

Thanks!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikigrodd (talk • contribs)

I'd be glad to move it for you, but you might want to do a little more research first - I've done a little bit, and the naming seems divided between "Superhost" and "Super Host".

Also, it's common practice to sign posts on talk pages with your name and time - you can do so by typing four tildes like this: ~~~~, which will give something like this: -- Natalya 16:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Natalya 16:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your user page

Hi, I'm Sarah. Your user page is really beautiful! I'm jealous. :) Just thought I'd say hi. Sarah crane 19:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Sarah! The real credit should go to everyone who takes the beautiful pictures. :D I've actually run across yours before, and I really like the crane reference - very cool! I hope you continue your contributions to Wikipedia - I've been reading through some of the discussion that you've been involved in, and even though there has been a lot of disagreement, I hope that does not turn you away from Wikipedia. Keep up your contributing! And enjoy your day :) -- Natalya 03:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've been using you beautiful garden picture on people's talk pages in order to encourage them. (I guess you didn't take it, but I still think of it as yours.) It was really nice for me when people left encouraging notes for me when I was involved in nastiness with difficult users, so I thought I'd recycle the good karma. Have a great Friday! Sarah crane 15:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

That's really great! I'm sure all the people who recieve encouragement and the beautiful picture from you appreciate it. :) If you like the picture (I think it's gorgeous!!), check out some other pictures by User:Fir0002, who took it and many other fantstic ones. -- Natalya 16:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the help. Wil try to research Superhost. Also thanks for the tip on signing posts. Wikigrodd 03:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)