Talk:Natterjack Toad

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There has been an article, in the Independent newspaper in the United Kingdom, on how amphibians are risking extinction, which describes the decline in the natterjack population. Should this be mentioned here? ACEO 19:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

What the hell does "shallow but deep water" mean?

[edit] Classification

According to Amphibian Species of the World, 5.0, the correct classification would be as Epidalea calamita. Could someone knowledgeable comment on this? Thanks a lot. [1] --Eleassar ^{my talk} 15:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

In the dutch wikipedia we already switched to the new names. I uploaded my pictures under the name Epidalea calamita to commons. The genders Bufo and Rana are very diverse groups of species. In fact the natterjack is very different from the common toad (sound, way of live and internal antatomy (When on a telemetry experiment natterjacks were operated in the same way as common toads they died because the arteries were on a different place)). Maybe it is a bit early, but in time I think the new name will be universally accepted.

We also put the green frogs (Rana esculenta, lessonae, ridibunda) in the new genus Pelophylax, which is also more logical because the species in the Pelophylax genus are very much alike in livestyle and habitus and can easily hybridize. The species Rana ridibunda becomes Pelophylax ridibundus!!

Also the newts are put in new genera , Triturus for crested newt, Mesotriton for Triturus alpestris and Lissotriton for Triturus vulgarisViridiflavus 00:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

The paraphyly of the genus Bufo is well known for decades. But the new proposal of Frost et al. (2006) — switching the Natterjack into a genus Epidalea and the Green Toad into Pseudepidalea — is discussed very controversely! Their "Amphibian Tree of Life" is not accepted by several other taxonomists. (At least parts of this tree.) While the new names Pelophylax (for palaearctic waterfrogs), and Lissotriton/Mesotriton (for some newts) meanwhile are recommended to be used also by some European herpetologists, the same experts give the advice not to change Bufo calamita to Epidalea calamita and Bufo viridis to Pseudepidalea viridis — at least for the moment. Confirming studies should be waited for. -- 91.34.160.240 15:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)