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[edit] Cleanup

This article has no references. Also, greater care needs to be used in adding categories and templates fto make sure they are appropriate and not redunant. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

References are like footnotes in a term paper. Saying that "The CEC gave NU the Golden Mortarboard Award" is not a reference. A link the CEC's webpage listing the award recipients, or a citation to a newspaper article announcing the award, would be references. An example of a thoroughly-referenced article is "University of California, Los Angeles". A more typical article, with only partial references, is "Fuller Theological Seminary". If you need help formatting references let me know and I can show you the techniques, which are also covered at Wikipedia:Citing sources.

Separately, please be careful about copying material from other websites, including NU's. Most websites are copyrighted and so we can't use their text here. It's better to write from scratch. ·:· Will Beback ·:· —Preceding comment was added at 22:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

"Will", the first citation is mentioned in the Accreditation section with a reference for a website embedded. Thus, the statement in the tag "This article does not cite any references or sources." is not factual. Secondly, there are numerous universities which site much more extensive information without any such tags being added to their descriptions - I will list them all for you so that you can reprimand them if you wish. Finally, there are numerous universities which also use the templates. The templates will help users navigate between our article and others of related interest. I see it written nowhere that the templates may not be used other than by your comments, and the allowance of their use by other universities seems to indicate some degree of bias as it relates to your edits of our page. We challenge you to find any statement of inaccuracy on our page. Even the statement made in the opening paragraph regarding the perception of the university's reputation is backed up based on the 2007 report by the EESE. We feel that you are being somewhat selective in your decisions regarding which articles to edit rather than making such decisions based on universal and consistent standards. Obviously that is concerning to us. We do realize however that we may be wrong in this sentiment, and so we ask that if you are going to edit our article in this manner that you also edit all articles and all university descriptions in the same manner. Along these lines and if you do wish to continue reprimanding National U, we will help point you in the direction of all universities which may be in need of your attention (and I am sure you know that the list is extensive). Obviously we have better things to do with our time, and I am sure you do as well, so we would prefer to avoid such endeavors. It is not our desire to become engaged in a nonsensical editing war as it is simply an unproductive waste of time, but we have posted nothing but factual information to our page (and we do have at least one embedded citation, as well as others which state where any person of interest may find the info of inquiry), and the use of the same templates which you are deleting is employed by many other universities with no citations attached to their pages.

This computer is used by quite a few members of our staff. Thus, if you wish to discuss this matter off-line more formally I will be happy to do so in order to see it resolved more efficiently. Let me know and I will provide you with the appropriate contact information. -Dr. Wiley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.1.77 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your reply. Have you had a chance to read the page I referenced above, about how to cite your sources?

Without any obvious way of verifying the information in the article it's impossible to know what is true and what isn't. I don't doubt it's all true, but it there are no references to any of the assertions so it isn't verifiable.

I'm sure we all want this article to be as good or better than other college articles. I'm not reprimanidng NU, I'm trying to get this article into better shape. Reverting my edits is not a collegial activity. Please be more respectful of those who are familiar with editing Wikipedia.

Please sign up for an individual account. WP does no allow multiple people to use the same account. If you are an employee of the university you should read and follow the guidelines for handling conflicts of interest, WP:COI.

Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)