Talk:National Special Security Event

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[edit] Super Bowl XLI

Was this event an NSSE? KyuuA4 22:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Super Bowl XL was a NSSE http://www.fema.gov/emergency/reports/2006/nat020606.shtm There is no equivalent statement for Super Bowl XLI from FEMA, including here http://www.fema.gov/emergency/reports/2007/nat020507.shtm Maybe someone just forgot to include it. But the State Department has a fuller list here http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/95048.pdf It is more complete than the current entry's list and some of the dates differ. It is my belief that 9/11 was also designated a NSSE, but of course you would never get a straight answer as to whether that was before or after planes started hitting buildings. I expect Congress has been told either way but in closed session. BTW The recent coincidental cutting of internet cables from the Middle East is an eery parallel with the shutting down of Middle Eastern-oriented websites just prior to 9/11. Good thing the Super Bowl is a NSSE, or maybe not. LimitedNews (talk) 11:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

The first section of the article seems to argue against many "uninformed" points of view on NSSEs. It would be better if such POVs were not attacked, but listed as concerns.

I agree. Apparently this edit added a pretty much all of the ridiculous POV. A (cited) section on concerns and common misunderstandings would be great, but when it's the entire entry and it's phrased like "Dear reader, you are wrong", it's bad. I'm reverting the top section to the pre-that-edit state. -- Plutor 14:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of past NSSEs

Hard to find a definite list. This page says that there have been 20 so far, and it was published before the two 2004 national conventions. That is the best I can do so far. - Plutor 19:29, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

A few more listed here: [1] - Plutor 19:33, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
One more, the G8 summit: [2]
Great job finding that info, Logan! --Gerald Farinas 19:37, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Thanks. This article says that the 2004 State of the Union address, G8 summit, Reagan's funeral, and the two conventions are the only NSSE's for the past year. And that also implies to me that the 2003 State of the Union was probably also an NSSE. I will get this entire list, I swear it! - Plutor 12:47, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I just overhauled the article. I fixed up the table so it's sortable also, and added some references. The table isn't complete though:

  • Someone ought to have a complete list of NSSEs from at least 2000-12-19 on, since the law started requiring a list of events be reported to Congress every year.
  • Super Bowls and Academy Awards shows have no references yet.
  • I didn't list State of the Union addresses before 2006 because it is unclear from the 2008 DHS press release which "last three State of the Union Addresses" they mean. It could mean 2008, 2007, and 2006; or it could mean 2007, 2006, and 2004 because inaugural speeches (2005) usually aren't considered a State of the Union; or it could mean 2007, 2006, and 2005 if some inaugural speech to Congress was inaccurately included by DHS. Past DHS press releases might clarify it.

--Closeapple (talk) 10:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article movement

User:SNIyer12 copy and paste method of moving this article from this namespace National special security event to National Special Security Event was stopped. Please use the move features when doing so. If it doesn't allow you to move an article, please leave a message at my talk page (or any other administrator's page) so I can delete the offending namespaces to allow you to move articles where they should be. --Gerald Farinas 19:13, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I must add that I think I understand your reasoning for moving the article. National Special Security Event is a proper name for a policy and therefore all words must be capitalized. --Gerald Farinas 19:14, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] American Idol

Someone added that American Idol is an automatic NSSE? I need source citation on that or else it needs to be deleted. Gerald Farinas

It has been a while since I looked at this page. In my view, the NSSE entry is now fairly vapid and inaccurate in important respects. For example, the current entry states that once DHS declares an NSSE, the DHS assumes "federal control of security measures normally employed by local law enforcement." That interpretation directly contradicts the nuanced information in the "DHS National Special Security Event Fact Sheet" cited at the end of the entry. The current NSSE entry also says "It [NSSE designation] also releases federal funding for security plans." In my expereince, that is not the case. I would welcome the chance to learn when it was the case. There are what i consider to be at least two other equally significant errors. I am interested in discussing the changes made on March 12, 2006 with whoever made them. I have some experience with the internal dynamics of NSSE designation and implementation. But i can also learn from the experiences of others. Bellavita 01:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)bellavita