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This page should be moved to "Australian Premier League" to reflect the league's new league.

I have redirected Australian Premier League here for now.

Rupert

I think it would be better to keep them separate; use the NSL article to discuss the history of the old league, and the new league gets its own article; sort of like Bundesliga (ice hockey) talks about the old German ice hockey Bundesliga, and Deutsche Eishockey Liga talks about the new league... - AmishThrasher
I agree with AmishThrasher. Ambivalenthysteria 09:22, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] "Me too" with AmishThrasher

The APL isn't the NSL renamed, it's an entirely new league (with regional, rather than club, based teams - hence the absence of the only Australian club to represent Oceania in a World Championship). Keep the two separate leagues in two separate pages, with links between them because they were both exclusive domestic top competitions in their times.

[edit] A-League

It was announced today that the new league would be called the A-League, not the Australian Premier League, as speculated. Unfortunately, this name is already in use: A-League redirects to A-League Soccer - a competition in America. I suggest we arrange a disambiguation page for the two once ours is created, for the moment I have made the links go to A-League (Australia). I added the information regarding the announcement today, including the team names provided, but they did say that some teams are looking for a proper/mascot name still. The announcement information is here. Enjoy. AlbinoMonkey 11:10, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • Once the page is created (I do not have much time at the moment for a couple of weeks) - the information from this page under A-League should be moved into the new page - obviously some of it remaining here to give a brief overview. AlbinoMonkey 11:21, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Project

I am thinking of creating a WikiProject for the A-League, where we work on pages for each club, and providing reasonably up-to-date information on the league..any takers? If you haven't seen one before, check out WikiProject Formula One for an example. AlbinoMonkey 11:21, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There is probably a better example, with WikiProject Football Clubs... we should probably put the club informations following this template thing, to keep it consistent across Wikipedia. AlbinoMonkey 11:28, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 10:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

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[edit] Upgrading

I think this article is ok, but it can be a lot better with a bit morw work. In particular, I want to see a lot more stuff in the history section, but also on media coverage as well, that kind of thing. I can try do some stuff, but i'm not the most knowledgable person on the matter. Blackmissionary 06:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mooroolbark

It might interest you that Mooroolbark were the first club to enter the NSL - http://www.thebarkers.com.au/history.htm

Yeah, I know that, and without the Barkers there'd be no NSL whatsoever, because the other Melbourne teams wouldn't enter, or something like that. If we can get a few paragraphs on the formation/early days of the league, and a little bit of history on the pre-NSL comps held between clubs from different states that would be awesome, and of course Mooroolbark would be recognised accordingly. I wouldn't mind seeing a separate article on the Barkers no matter how short it is, so we could link it with this page. Blackmissionary 00:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Furthermore

On that matter we also really need some knowledgable people to add pages on Brunswick Juventus, Sydney City and West Adelaide, because all these teams were important in Australian football, even if they aren't around anymore. It'd be great to have a wikiproject NSL or something like that, but there doesn't seem to be much interest on here for the NSL. I wouldn't mind seeing the NSL included as part of wikiproject A-League. Blackmissionary 00:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Almost a year has passed from this casual suggestion. Thanks to those who wrote up the articles on those clubs (including myself, lol), and especially to those who made Wikipedia:WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia a reality. Blackmissionary 05:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Additional trophy information

Would be good to see the champions and runners up table expanded to also include minor premiers, and I think there was an NSL cup for a few years too? Maybe also include that one.

[edit] Individual medals

Also potentionally a table with each season against individual medal winners, eg. Warren and Marden medals coarch of the year, leading goal scorer for the year etc.

[edit] History re-write

Dissatisfied with the previous version of the 'history' section, (too POV against the NSL in my opinion, as well as being too short for my liking), this was something i had wanted to do for a long time. Primarily using stats and info from [OzFootball], and notes taken from Trevor Thompson's book 'One Fantastic Goal', i personally think it is a massive improvement. However it isn't perfect, with some sections definitely needing more info and work, and in particular info about the broadcasting rights situation especially the channel 7/C7 pay tv situation would be most welcome. The sections are designed for what i thought were the more obvious era changes, however this is wikipedia after all and they'ree are subject to change by whomever wishes to do so. Blackmissionary 00:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)