Talk:National Labor Students

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[edit] earlier comments

Attempts to place ALP politics into student politics is obviously POV and is simply pushing a barrow. The two are serparate, as the ALP does not and has never been formally involved in student politics.Theusualsuspect 07:09, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes. But if you describe one faction that way, you have to do the same for them all. Xtra 07:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I haven't recently changed the Student Unity article, so I suggest you correct that one, rather than add inaccurate to this one.Theusualsuspect 07:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Darren- discuss this issue. Theusualsuspect 20:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism section

This seems an unlikely issue to be a 'major criticism' - that a political faction should seek to hold a senior officer position. Any suggestions on a rewording to better illustrate why this is a criticism at all, and not what any faction would do given the opportunity? Jeendan 21:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability concerns

This article does not appear to have any references whatsoever. Can someone please try to come up with mentions in some reliable sources which both confirm the information in this article, and also provide evidence that the organization is "notable" per WP:CORP? If not, it should probably be merged to the Australia Wikia. Thanks, Elonka 06:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but as far as you like to stretch the corporations guidelines, you cannot stretch them to what is effectively a political party. This faction and its predecessor has dominated Australia's national student union since its inception; it has produced an array of notable people, and there is a multitude of newspaper material about it. As I said the other day, if you're after a new deletion fetish, you've picked a bad topic if you actually want to see any articles deleted instead of trying to waste our time. Rebecca 11:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Whilst more sources are certainly desirable, there is no doubt that this article fulfills notability requirements LibStu 03:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I have yet to see any sources which confirm notability. Instead, this article seems to be becoming a magnet for unsourced POV statements. --Elonka 16:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Then perhaps you could do some research yourself, instead of demanding that others dedicate their time where you demand they spend it. Rebecca 02:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Per WP:V, the responsibility of adding sources is on those who seek to include information, not those who challenge it. I've done some general searching and haven't found enough to convince myself that these organizations are notable enough for Wikipedia articles at all. That's why I recommend that the information be moved over to the Australia Wikia. --Elonka 02:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Have to agree with Rebecca, the article does require cleanup and better sourcing, but is certainly notable enough to remainLibStu 07:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia guidelines on notability, "A topic is notable if it has received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Can you please provide one or two of these sources? --Elonka 20:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ALP and Coalition ideology

Do people think it's more precise to classify the ALP as social democratic, rather than center-left. By the same token do people think it's more precise to classify the Coalition as neoliberal, rather than center-right. If anyone has any input into this please see the discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Australian_federal_election%2C_2007#Description_of_ALP. Alans1977 22:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Libby Buckingham isn't NLS

I've deleted Libby Buckingham from the list of NLS campus presidents. She ran with a Labor Left ticket, and is involved with the Labor Party, but is not a member of NLS.

Shakeyshake (talk) 09:34, 26 December 2007 (UTC)