Talk:National Defense Service Medal

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[edit] Reservists

AR 600--8-22 clearly states that select reservists in good standing are eligible for the award. I'm reverting back to the previous version. MWShort (talk) 11:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

My edits actually changed it to reflect exactly what you just said. A revert is not neccesary. -OberRanks (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You're right; I realised that after I reread them; too crossed-eyed, not enough coffee yet. MWShort (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Authority

There was also a change to the NDSM authorizing its wear for anyone who, in a period NOT covered by one of the national emergency dates, earned any campaign medal. This included, for example, the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, which was awarded to some soldiers who were in none of the qualifying periods, but deployed to Bosnia. I will provide cite when I find it.--Vidkun 22:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

• I have never heard of that and my agency (NPRC) is in charge of verifying entitlement to the medal. That also does not appear in any of the instructions and award criteria regarding this medal. You cannot, for instance, get it for serving in the 1980s even if you were awarded the AFEM. Interesting if theres something out that that claims the above is true, becuase none of the service departments will issue the medal outside of the estabished time periods as far as I know. -Husnock 22:24, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
  • As a followup to that, there is a reg only for the Army, which reads: "Any member of the Guard or Reserve who, after 31 December 1960, becomes eligible for the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Vietnam Service Medal or the Southwest Asia Service Medal is also eligible for the National Defense Service Medal." This is since the only situation where a reservist would recieve one of those three medals would be for activiation during the designated times of emergency. The reg provides they would automatically recieve the NDSM upon presentation of the other medal. Issuance of the NDSM, outside of the designated time periods for issuance, is not authorized by any branch of the military. -Husnock 22:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Time Limit

Someone keeps removing the material about the time limit for this medal and the statements that it is a low ranked service medal as "vandalism". Both of the statements are true: the NDSM is automatically awarded as soon as someone joins the military during one of its designated time periods...you can be in for just a day and still get it (although it is true most military clerks won't put it on a DD Form 214 unless you've been in 30 days). And as for its ranking, the precedence order has it as one of the lower medals on all US charts. I did remove the "nicknames" section since that is editor speculation, but therest of the material should stay in. -OberRanks 15:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually most nicknames were true. When we got the NDSM after boot camp it was called the cheeseburger/pizza stain. Theres been other nicknames as well, but those are the only ones I can confirm.(Deeter063 (talk) 10:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC))