Talk:Nathalie Handal

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[edit] infobox v. navbox

Based on the comment by the user, I can understand part of their confusion - it took me a while to figure out what an infobox titled "Palestinians" had to do with Nathalie Handal (I did finally figure it out, she's listed under Notable Palestinians). To me, that infobox should be converted to a navbox at the bottom of the page (it really is a navbox, just currently presented in infobox form). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree; she is notable for her literary writing, and not as a Palestinian activist/state representative. Therefore the large "Palestinian" infobox seems undue to me too. Is there a smaller Palestine nav. box that we can use ?

That aside, the article can be considerably expanded based on available reliable sources. I'll try to do my bit during the next few days. Hope others can help. Abecedare (talk) 21:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

FYI: I've proposed converting the Palestinians template to use the standard navbox format over at Template talk:Palestinians#proposed conversion of template to standard navbox format, and created a draft version for discussion. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Great! For the moment I have removed the infobox, especially since (according to a ref I just added), Handal is an American with Pelstinian background. Once we have the navbox, I think it would be ok to add it here. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 23:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Close the COI complaint?

At Wikipedia:COIN#Nathalie Handal I proposed that the Conflict of Interest complaint should be closed. The subject has not edited the article since 19 March. We still need a photo with proper copyright clearance; I left a note at User talk:NatHandal#Photo needed to see if she could help. EdJohnston (talk) 00:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize the COI complaint was still open; it certainly should be closed in my view.

The license of the photograph that was added to the page is almost certainly problematic. Hopefully NatHandal will be willing to release a photograph for our use; we can also look for photographs with compatible licenses on flickr etc. Abecedare (talk) 01:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

User:NatHandal has resumed making unexplained edits to the article. I withdraw my suggestion that we close the COI complaint. I left a note asking her to discuss her edits. EdJohnston (talk) 16:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Folks, this is not a "COI issue", it's an article subject correcting or removing disputed information in a WP:BLP, which is absolutely fine. I'm validating formally that user:NatHandal is Nathalie Handal, but OTRS ticket#2008040310022958 makes it pretty clear. Please be sensitive and help NatHandal to fix the issues she identifies, I will ask her to engage in discussion here. Thanks, Guy (Help!) 15:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Message from NatHandal

Thanks to those who have responded to me ab out this, I also repost here by request a note from User:NatHandal in response to the OTS ticket:

Hello everyone. I am terribly sorry but I do not quite get how to respond to all of you and I hope this is the way. Until today, I did not know I had messages, otherwise, I would have answered... so please accept my apologies. And thank you for the email letting me know to check the discussion page.
I thank you so much for all of you amazing and hard work and truly appreciate your assistance.
I see you made the changes and I thank you. If you want any more explanation re my change request, I am happy to provide it. And re: your photo question/yes you can use it.
I will continue to try to navigate WIKI and answer all your questions. Again, thank you so very much. NatHandal

You can ref the above OTRS ticket as permission for the image, and if anyone wants to help Nat to get acquainted with Wikipedia and how to work with us, please do feel free to pitch in. Guy (Help!) 11:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)