Talk:Nashville Sounds

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Good article Nashville Sounds has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
March 27, 2008 Good article nominee Listed

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[edit] Fate without a new stadium?

where would they go if they don't get a new stadium? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WillC (talk • contribs) 5 September 2005

This question has been addressed at Nashville_Sounds#First_Tennessee_Field. -NatureBoyMD 01:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Review part 1

I'll be doing my review in several parts, so look for new things every day or couple of days. This is part 1. In my first glance over the article, I noticed quite a few things that need to be fixed:

  • Per WP:LEAD, for an article this size, the lead should be about 4 paragraphs. Also, it should summarize all the main points of the article.
Y Done - It has been expanded to four paragraphs with two new paragraphs: 1)organization overview, 2)important events and honors -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Especially in the "Team History" section, a lot of the paragraphs begin with In ____ (year). Try and switch it up to make for a more interesting read.
Y Done -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Paragraphs should be more than a sentence or two long. Either combine smaller paragraphs, expand them, or delete them altogether.
Y Done - Short paragraphs have been expanded or merged. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Stand alone months and days (ex: July 7) should not be wikilinked unless they are with a year (ex: July 7, 2000).
Remark: According to MOS:Autoformatting and linking stand alone days and months should be link for purposes of autoformatting. I used to think they shouldn't be linked until an editor pointed out that they were supposed to be. That prompted me to ask around and other well established editors confirmed that stand alone months and days were indeed supposed to be linked. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay. That's fine. Nikki311 02:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • There are quite a few percentages and win-loss records that aren't cited. Those need to be referenced by a reliable source.
Y Done - I've added citations for all percentages and win-loss records appearing within prose. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

That's it for now. The article still needs quite a bit of work to reach GA level, but it is attainable. If you have any questions, you can ask me here. If you want a quicker response, it is best to post on my talk page. Thanks. Nikki311 21:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Great job so far. I wasn't expecting you to do it all in one day. I'll probably be able to go over the work tomorrow at some point and make additional comments/suggestions. Nikki311 02:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Review part 2: citations

There are some really good sources already in the article, but there are some sentences with stats, possible controversial statements, and other random stuff that needs to be cited. I've compiled a list of sentences I think would benefit from a citation. The bolded part of the sentence is the part that needs to be cited. Also, remember that citations go after punctuation...not in the middle of a sentence. Here you go:

  • The Reds era
    • He brought in country music stars, such as Larry Gatlin, Jerry Reed, and Conway Twitty, as Sounds shareholders.
    • Fans responded well to the return of baseball to the city, evidenced by Nashville leading the Southern League in attendance in each of their seven seasons as a member of the league.
    • Two years later, it would set the all-time league attendance record (575,676).
    • When the ABA merged with the NBA in 1976, some of the copyrights were allowed to lapse, and Nashville's baseball team adopted the abandoned schemes.
    • The Sounds played their first home game, a 12-4 victory, on April 26, 1978 against the Savannah Braves in front of a sellout crowd of 8,156 fans.
    • As the Double-A affiliate of the Reds, the Sounds finished ninth during their inaugural campaign of 1978, but led the league in attendance by drawing 380,000 fans (more than double the second-place attendance).
    • The home opener was scheduled to take place the previous evening, but was rained out.
Y Done - This section has been fixed. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Yankees era
    • The team also set a league attendance record, when a total of 575,676 fans visited Greer Stadium.
    • The 10-1 Yankees victory was played at Nashville's historic Sulphur Dell, the home ballpark of various Nashville teams from 1885 to 1963, in front of a standing room only crowd of 17,318 fans.
    • The program ranged from a $10 fine for a pitcher walking a batter with one on and two outs to a $100 fine for missing curfew.
Y Done - This section has been taken care of. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
  • The Reds II
    • Over the first three seasons (1987 to 1989), Nashville fans had the opportunity to watch players who eventually made up two thirds of Cincinnati’s 1990 World Series championship roster.
    • The team started the season with Jack Lind, who left due to health problems.
    • He retired after one game, and was replaced by Jim Hoff, who stayed a few days before taking up a position with the Reds' front office.
    • This was the third no-hitter ever pitched by a member of the Sounds.
    • That year, Nashville set their all-time attendance record when a total of 605,122 fans came out to Greer Stadium.
Y Done - The section has been fixed. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 00:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
  • White Sox
    • Nashville continued its excellent attendance, drawing over 400,000 fans for the fifth consecutive year.
    • Nashville's Rick Renick was named the American Association Manager of the Year.
    • This marked the first time in 21 years that two minor league teams in the United States shared a city.
    • Nashville pitcher Rodney Bolton led the American Association with a 2.88 ERA.
    • In addition to being selected for both the mid-season and post-season All-Star teams, outfielder Magglio Ordóñez garnered the league's Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player awards.
Y Done - The section has been fixed. I also reworded the third item to indicate the last instance of two teams sharing a park. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 00:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Pirates
    • On April 7, 2003, right-hander John Wasdin pitched the first perfect game in Nashville Sounds history in his first start of the season against the Albuquerque Isotopes.
    • This made him the second former player from Nashville to receive this honor.
Y Done - This section has been taken care of. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 01:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Brewers
    • This game matched the longest game, in terms of innings played, in PCL history.
Y Done - This section has been taken care of. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Herschel Greer Stadium
    • In the late 1980s, the stadium could accommodate as many as 18,000.
    • Upon completion in 1978, Greer was considered a modern, attractive minor league stadium, and continued to be for years.
Y Done - I cited the first item. Unfortunatly, I couldn't find anything conclusive to backup the second. As a result, I decided to rewrite parts of the section. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
  • First Tenn. Field
    • The Sounds had planned on leaving Greer Stadium for a new ballpark in 2009.
    • Such a law could aid the Sounds with the financing of a new stadium; problems with financing were a primary reason that the First Tennessee Field project was cancelled.
Y Done - This section has been taken care of. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Normally, editors have about seven days to complete fixing an article before it is taken off hold and failed. Because I realize that this might be a lot of work, if you are still actively editing at the end of seven days, I'm more than willing to extend the deadline and give you more time. The only other problems I see with the article are some small MoS problems, some weaselly statements, and some comma splices. When you are done sourcing the article, I'll copyedit it for you to take care of those issues. Good luck! Nikki311 00:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

All your work looks really good! I'll copy-edit later this evening, and as long as nothing else jumps out at me that I can't fix myself, I should be able to pass the article. Nikki311 13:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Review part 3

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

I finished with the copyediting, as well. I didn't change much, just a few typos, some comma problems, and a few other little known grammar problems. I also combined some of the shorter paragraphs (especially in the history sections) when they were dealing with the same year. All in all, it was very well written. I'm going to pass the article. Thanks for all your hard work and speedy replies. It was a pleasure to work with you. Congratulations on your successful Good Article. Nikki311 18:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)