Talk:Napoleon Orda

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Why is this page here and not at Napoleon Orda? It seems strange that his name was first transcrypted to (Bela)russian and then back to latin alphabet. Why not use simply the name he signed his works with? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 08:26, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

Okay, since Mikka insists on claiming Orda was Belarusian, I kindly ask him to provide sources for that. I know that in Belarus it is quite common to subscribe all people born in what is now Belarus to the Belarusian nation, but how does it make Orda a Belarusian? Or is he any more Belarusian than my great-grandfather who was also born in what is now Belarus? Halibutt 11:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I know that in Poland it is quite common to subscribe all people born in GDL territory to Polsih nation, and this is correct. At the same time "what is now Belarus" and Belarussian "psia krew" did not pop up out of nowhere. So prease don't restart this silly quarrel repeated on many pages. Belarusians have right for their ancestry and right for their POV presented in wikipedia. There are Russian Americans, German Americans, etc., no big deal, so why Polsish so eagerly deny existence of Polish Belarusians throughout the history? mikka (t) 18:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

What sources name him as Belarussian besides Belarus and perhaps Russia? Here he is named as Polish composer:

[1] --Molobo 23:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC) Here another one: [2] --Molobo 23:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC) Another one: [3] --Molobo 23:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

So you prefer to disregard "Belarus and perhaps Russia"? No wonder Ghirla is mad at you. mikka (t) 00:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

and Belarussian "psia krew" did not pop up out of nowhere. What are you talking about with this statement ? It's just bizarre. First Ghirla now you ? What are those bizarre and weird comments about dog's blood. I'm am sorry to state this but I simply don't understand what you want to communicate to us. --Molobo 23:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

"Psia krew" is how my grandgather was referred to by a pan Wisniewski, in reference to low descent of tutejszy populace. Since you didn't recognize the usage of this expression, you are obviously not very much familiar what was in Belarusian lands and how Belarusian szlachta was shy of their descent and willing to forget it and how Posish szlachta was "adopting" the "litvins" to get rid of traces of non-Polish nobility. mikka (t) 00:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I am trying to communicate that just as I support your case in the case of Kopernik against Prussian assault, my position is the same here: Orda is called belarusian by belarusians, and this opinion is equally valid, and I don't like the demeaning attitude with respect to this long suffered people who was sucked of all blood and gene fund by Polish and Russians alike. mikka (t) 00:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)