Talk:Napoleon I of France bibliography

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[edit] Excessive title

Isn't the title of this article ("Napoleon I the Great of the French bibliography") a bit excessive? I've almost never heard Napoleon referred to in English as "the Great". - Jmabel | Talk 01:18, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, maybe just Napoleon I - Bibliography. --Bryson 03:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I've read dozens of books and articles on Napoleon and yes, he is occasionally referred to as the Great. It's the most common way that he is referred. If Alexander the Great is "the Great" and Charlemagne is "magne," even though both men have numerous detractors, then referring to Napoleon as such when some contemporaries and even later scholars desribed him as such is consistent with how we refer to other historic figures. Plus, although Napoleon certainly has some strikes against him, his achievements and influence are such that calling him the great, as Victor Hugo did (Napoleon le Grand) or as Napoleon appeared on medellions (Napoleon le grand), reflects influence and achievement a la Alexander and not necessarily an agreement in favor of his character. Sincerely, --Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend? 22:30, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Of course, I have no way to know what you are reading, but I have almost never (if ever outside Wikipedia) seen him referred to as "Napoleon I the Great of the French". I would say that that just "Napoleon" is most common, then "Napoleon Bonaparte", then probably "Napoleon I", with every other designation being less common. Yes, I have occasionally seen "the Great", but not in combination with "I" and rarely, if ever, in combination with "of the French" (a designation that is, itself, formally correct, but very uncommon in English). - Jmabel | Talk 05:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Napoleon is Napoleon I, because there was a Napoleon II and a Napoleon III. He is of the French because this was a revolutionary attempt to signify that he was the ruler of the people and not just land. He is called Great because, as stated by our Freind above, Victor Hugo and many others refer to him Napoleon le Grand. We call Alexander the Great even though textbooks ask if he was really a hero or a madman! We can call Napoleon the Great and still be aware of his faults. --24.154.173.243 22:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)--24.154.173.243 22:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I boldly moved the article to Napoleon I of the French bibliography per this article. As that is the correct way that it should be and is how it appears in many if not all of the books on the list in the article. Should anyone think it is "of France", that article no redirects to this one. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 15:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)