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[edit] New Photo?

Hey (my username is ORBJ)... I hate that shitty blurry picture of the coastland mall that is present at the top of the article. How about a replacement? I would rather have something more attractive than the mall which is the wart of naples. How about

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyorban/377732589/

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyorban/331435765/in/photostream/

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremyorban/330682535/in/photostream/

?

These are all my photos and any of them would be free to use on the page. At least it's something better than the Naples "skyline". Opinions?

The picture from "Coastland Center" is actually pointing at Park Shore Shopping Center which is 3mi North of the Mall. I have changed the caption on the picture to reflect this. Tsubasa 20:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] False Information

Billie Joe Armstrong is already married to Adrienne. That is false information about his fiance. And I live in Naples, never heard of him living here.

Hopefully someone has a source for that entire paragraph. Added templates that indicate lacking sources. 207.30.145.6 12:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Area Attractions

I've tried, but I can't find any inspiration. The second half of this section reads straight of a brochure from a travel agent. Anyone want to take a stab at fixing it?Trevormartin227 21:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I took out the repeated "huge," "countless," and other flowery generalizations, but it needs more work from someone more familiar with the area (who's willing to treat this like an encyclopedia article and not a PR puff piece).65.96.180.86 05:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I have added the re-write tag to this section. Judging by the numerous uncited "facts" and the remaining PR-style of writing present, it is this editor's opinion that the section still needs major, major work. Trevormartin227 13:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Why isn't the Naples Zoo, aka Jungle Larry's, up here? Is it still around? Smart Mark Greene 03:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History

Hey Don't forget to include the Swamp Buggy Races!!!149.161.20.53 23:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Snakebite149.161.20.53 23:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah! I had forgotten all about the Swamp Buggy Races! --Smart Mark Greene 04:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

I think a trivia section for naples would be appropriate, for instance I have heard (yet to confirm yet) that Naples is the only city in the world to have two Ritz Caroltons. KurtFF8 04:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Seems kind of irrelevent...aside from the fact that it's not true. Atlanta, New Orleans, Boston, New York, and Washington DC all have two Ritz-Carlton hotels. Not to mention that Beijing, Hong Kong, and Dubai all have two as well. Here is a link: [1] Trevormartin227 17:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Well that's why I posted it here on the discussion first, thanks KurtFF8 20:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe the second Ritz resort is the first of its kind as it was designed as a golf resort. Also I've seen documentaries on the Travel Channel about the first Ritz hotel in Naples, but I don't know if that is very notable. WillMcC 19:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Still, only a VERY limited amount of cities in the world have two(2)Ritz Carleton in their stable!!!216.221.73.39 20:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC) The Fan!

[edit] Here's my two cents worth

Naples is home to parts of two major land reserves, the Corkscrew Swamp Sanctuary and the Everglades National Park. The Corkscrew Swamp Sanctuary is known not only for it's 11,000 acres of landscape and wildlife, but for a two and a half mile length boardwalk spread throughout the sanctuary[2]. The Naples area is also home to the Naples Zoo at Caribbean Gardens, which dates back to 1919[3].

Naples is part of the market for the Florida Everblades ECHL hockey team, the Florida Firecats af2 arena football team, and the Florida Flame NBDL Basketball team, sharing the market Fort Myers and Lee County[4].

The city is served by the Naples Municipal Airport, whose only year-round commercial carrier is Delta Connection, which flies to Atlanta[5]. Southwest Florida International Airport, in South Fort Myers, handles the vast majority of commercial air traffic in and out of the region, with 7.5 million passengers making their way through the airport in 2005[6].

Naples is home to an estimated 250 Fortune 500 CEOs. [7]

Downtown Naples is home to the 5th Avenue South and 3rd Street South shopping districts, which feature a variety of antique shops[8]. Gallery Row, also downtown, is a concentration among the numerous art galleries spread throughout the downtown area[9]. The Philharmonic Center of the Arts, located in North Naples, has played host to celebrities including Bill Cosby, and musical talents from across the globe[10]. The Naples Players, the Naples Philharmonic Orchestra, The Philharmonic Center of Naples, Sugden Theater, and the other cultural attractions in Naples makes the area "The top small art town in America"[11].

With more than 80 championship golf courses, Naples is the self-titled "Golf Capitol of the World", claiming to have more holes per capita than any other community[12][13].

Naples schools are part of the Collier County School District, which includes several of the state's top-ranked schools. Barron Collier High School is the only school in Collier County to make Newsweek's 2006 list of top U.S. high schools[14]. Ave Maria University, the first Catholic university established in the U.S. since 1963, is located northeast of the city[15]. Florida Gulf Coast University is in Estero, located between the cities of Bonita Springs and Fort Myers to the north.

[edit] Rewrite Above

Does this meet the criteria deemed necessary by the tag on the main page? - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 03:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I would say yes, but that's just one editor's opinion. Trevormartin227 13:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I tried to add some more references and such, and rewrote some of the main content. But otherwise, it's the same old content. Glad to know it's a good rewrite for one person. What I'm wondering about is the ? superscripts. I couldn't find references for those. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 01:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Isn't the standard practice then, to take it out of the main article until it can be verified? That was my intention originally when I added the tag. Trevormartin227 14:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I would tend to agree with you. I am now going to do two things: Take the unverified information from the article rewrite on the talk page, and then replace the existing segment with the rewritten segment. - Jake - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 04:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, I'm not liking the current article layout. Some of the sections are useless and/or redundant. I also don't think that, once the article is fully cited, that anything should be allowed to stay unverified. The article's been largely ignored because of the work needed. I'm now actually putting forth some effort and I would hope it would stay in order. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 04:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Residents

Sgt. Slaughter was removed from "notable residents" because I didn't cite a source...I'm not really sure how to do this. I know he lives there because my father has seen him at the store he works at many times, and I also have a friend who is a wrestling promoter that was going to use him on a show, and confirmed that Slaughter lives in my hometown. Is that enough?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Smart Mark Greene (talk • contribs)

No, that is original research. Please read the policy on verifiability. You will need to find a report published in a reliable source that you can cite in order to include the information in an article. Also, please sign your comments on talk pages by placing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comment. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 10:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


This isn't really the kind of thing I was looking for, but would this work? http://sportscardsheriff.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t51688.html ? I'm guessing no, since this isn't really verifiable, but it doesn't hurt to ask... --Smart Mark Greene 19:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll wait to say yea or nay on that source until Donald's reply. I was the one that reverted your addition. I just did a rewrite of a section here and it had tons of unverified listings in it. I posted here and the call was made to outright remove all unverified listings (all of them). As long as the article still has "This article does not cite its sources," everything must have sources. - Jake - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 20:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Our guideline on reliable sources does rule out that sort of source. See particularly the section on Using online and self-published sources. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 01:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'll wait and see if I can find a better source. If I happen to be on a wrestling show with Slaughter (this could conceivably happen, I work as a referee occasionally) and he verbally confirms that he lives there, would that help at all? --Smart Mark Greene 04:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
No, that's still original research. The policy is that everything put into an article must be verifiable from published reliable sources. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 10:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I added Peter Thomaes because he is a well known narrator for documentaries. I have read several sources (including his wiki article) that says he lives with his wife in Naples.

Haven't looked for sources yet, but Ben Bova and Larry Bird (I think) both live in Naples. --Galaxiaad 20:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I added some {{fact}} tags to the residents without citations in Wikipedia. Please find sources or I will remove it. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 21:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] tags

I moved the tag for Unreferenced to the Local History section. All the other sections are cited. It seems to be the only section that needs referenced. Also, when do we know if the article has been cleaned appropriately? - Jake - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 21:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Local history section

The section had been tagged as unsourced for six months with no attempt to add citations of sources. Per the verifiability policy, none of the material may be re-added to article until citations to reliable sources have been made. -- Donald Albury 03:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

This picture is just not acceptable. "Hidden skyline" ? Are you kidding me? A better picture of Naples is needed. The beach perhaps with the "hidden skyline" in view. Perhaps a picture of the Naples Pier. Douglasr007 21:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I went through the article and updated the population data, added a note about Naples being the county seat (an odd omission), formatted most of the citations correctly (using the {{cite web}} or {{cite news}} templates), cleaned out some of the linkspam in the external links section, and removed a bunch of external links from the main body of the article. As per the Wikipedia Manual of Style, external links should not be in the body of the article. Additionally, many of the links served no purpose other than to confirm the existence of the shopping areas in question; they were simply commercial links that added little to no context for the article. I also reorganized the sections to conform to the standard at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities. Horologium t-c 04:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] County seat is in unincorporated East Naples

Unless the city of Naples has done some annexation, the county governmental complex at 3301 E. Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112, which is the county seat, is in unincorporated East Naples, Florida. The post office does not recognize East Naples as a separate place. After moving from Everglades City, Florida the county first gave its address as 3301 Tamiami Trail, East Naples. Then it put a comma after East and put it on the same line as the street address. Then it moved the East to between 3301 and Tamiami Trail. Being the county seat is important to a city or town and most that are let the world know that they are. The City of Naples does not. Its website makes no mention of its being the county seat. clariosophic 20:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)