Talk:Name of Toronto

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Contents 1 References? 2 Hogtown and The Junction 3 Francophones 4 article title 5 Sources 6 Hogtown 7 Centre of the Universe?

[edit] References?

This may be ambitious, but I think that each of these nicknames should reference at least one non-blog source if they are going to remain on this list. I've added references for a couple of them, but the list is long and quite frankly i've never heard most of these used, despite living in and around the city for twenty five years. Frank duff 21:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hogtown and The Junction

I added a reference to The Junction in the "Hogtown" nickname section, since on that page, it is stated that the Hogtown name originated in the stockyards of that neighbourhood.--Stetson 05:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Francophones

Is this exactly accurate? Isn't it more like To-ron-to when speaking french, and Traunno when speaking english, similiar to the Pair - ee & Pear-ess split, for example? I definitely pronounce a second T when speaking french but only a single T when speaking english. WilyD 19:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article title

Shouldn't this article be called "Name of Toronto"? ssepp^(talk) 20:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Much of these nicknames I've never heard of before, though I was born in the 1980 nicknames predating my existence I have heard from my parents. Stuff referring to churches, and "the Big smoke" are completely new to me. We always used to call Hamilton stuff that referred to Smoke (such as Smoke town or smokey hallow) because that's what you saw on the way there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mista-X (talk • contribs) 13:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

The only one I find questionable is "City of Churches". The Big Smoke has been used for decades, and is still mentioned in the media (watch a local newscast for a few weeks and you'll eventually hear it). Muddy York was probably the first nickname it acquired, followed by Methodist Rome, which led to the mid-20th century "Toronto the Good" (used frequently in the 1970s and 1980s). Hogtown and the 416 are well-known. "Economic engine of Canada" isn't really a nickname, more of a reference to the city's importance to the country's economy, but it probably deserves mention. Megacity is a generic term used to describe many cities of the world; I'm not sure if it belongs here. Raccoon City should probably be removed - this may be used in the gamer community, but I doubt anyone else, or anyone in the media, would use that moniker. Mindmatrix 14:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hogtown

I had thought this had to do with the Hogg family being the big bourgeoisie of the city once upon a time (and they still are pretty prominent, I believe), i.e. Hoggs Hollow, rather than some pork plant on one side of the town. --Mista-X (talk) 14:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Naw, it's definitely from the Pigs - however, we can sure enough dig up a citation, I imagine. WilyD 15:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The William Davies Company article has about 4 cites for it. And at the time it wasn't one pork plant on one side of town.Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No. The two are distinct. Hogg's Hollow was indeed named for the Hogg family (here's one source), but the nickname "Hogtown" refers to the Davies company, which at one time consisted of nearly 100 retail outlets throughout Toronto and Ontario. Mindmatrix 16:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centre of the Universe?

Canadians are funny. 68.175.83.141 (talk) 02:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)