Talk:Nalgene

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This page was listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion in May, 2004. The result of that discussion was to keep the article. For an archive of the discussion, see /Delete.

In my reading of this article I perceived a language bias in the health effects section. Note that scientists "find" while the corporation "claims"; "find" being a stronger word than "claim" gave me a definite impression of bias. I am in no way affiliated with this product nor particularly concerned with the product. I only came to this article hoping to find an accepted pronunciation (hard "g" versus soft "g"), which the article didn't address. It was only upon reading it that I felt compelled to note my impression. 68.99.134.118 (talk) 09:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

This page is just, well, odd.

Where are the other brands of water bottle manufacturers. This lot hardly invented the water sports bottle!

Was just searching around for data on these bottles, and found an article claiming a serious health hazard [1]. No time now for in-depth research but I wanted to put this out here. Tualha 13:28, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Follow-up: lots more links out there - google for polycarbonate water bottles bisphenol. Also a rebuttal to a Consumer Reports article, from the American Plastics Council. Um, ok. Real unbiased source, I'm sure. Tualha 13:38, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I was concerned about whether we were talking about Lexan (from GE) or lexan (generic). LEXAN® Resin Branding Program answers that clearly by displaying the Nalgene logo. (While i am adding mention of the all-caps spelling to the Lexan article, using it on this talk page's article is legally unnecessary (we aren't using it to sell anything) and would thus violate our journalism-style std of common, not legalese or advertising, usage.)
--Jerzy (t) 20:12, 2005 May 4 (UTC)

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[edit] Nalgene Breakability

How to break a nalgene bottle???

If you fill a nalgene bottle to the top with water and freeze it, will it break? Are you willing to test this on your 10 dollar bottle? Not me...let me know the outcome.

Thanks, Nicole

Well I tried this: I put water in a standard 1l bottle to the top and put it outside to freeze overnight (a cold canadian night). Next morning it had "stretched" but was still in one piece. So then, i poured boiling water hoping the tempreature rise would make it crack. Nope still in one piece. This is where i gave up, but my friend said that he broke his by filling it with a 1 litre bottle of coke and then shaking it very hard for about a minute and then smashing it againt a rock, the squeezing it under his armpit. I havent tried it myself nor did i see the broken bottle. User:MaxViper

So what? Myths about "unbreakable" things are not about the things, but about the concept "unbreakable". "Unbreakable in normal use" is useful information, within the limits of its imprecise terminology. "Unbreakable no matter what" is a perfectly precise term, and there is nothing it applies to. Any discussion of unbreakability is unencyclopedic.
--Jerzy•t 05:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other brands of reusable water bottles

Do we want to have a section on other brands of water bottles. I created the pic to the right of a non Nalgene brand (Rubbermaid actually) reusable water bottle and I'm a little concerned with the naming specific to one brand, it might bring in a "Wikipedia supports Nalgene" claim from other brands. -- Tawker 07:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

On the other hand, this article is about Nalgene (the company). We also have articles on other companies, and those articles describe their products. (For example, Rubbermaid has an article discussing that brand.) While we sometimes discuss a company's major competitors in a given market, I don't know that I would encourage it as a general practice—it's a slippery slope where we start seeing every maufacturer of water bottles listed here....
An observation—the article at water bottle is currently a disambiguation page. If someone wanted to create an article about water bottles (development, history, technology, major brands, etc.) in general, that would be a good place for it. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 18:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I Agree, this is a page about Nalgene, the company, not Nalgene bottles. If this page were Nalgene bottle, that would be a different discussion. -- 12.116.162.162 (talk) 21:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alternate uses?

User:Keflavich/Nalgene_in_Microwave I've used my nalgene as a pressure cooker, are there any other good 'alternative uses' people have tried? I think it would be nice to start an article on it if there are enough. --Keflavich 17:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon IP performing random hack-and-slash on article, and other issues

I've noticed the recent history shows one particular IP making a number of edits, including deleting the entire section on camping uses, that simply are not productive. Also, I'm concerned about two things -- first, that the article might read at least in part like a Nalge Nunc ad interspersed with poorly integrated critical commentary, and second, that the "health effects" issue really isn't appropriate for this particular article and ought to be relegated to the article on polycarbonate plastics. Just a few thoughts. Haikupoet 06:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The health effects issue should have a small summary with information relevant to Nalgene bottles with a "see also" to another article where the issue is dealt with in greater depth. --85.210.156.35 (talk) 09:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] corporation name vs. product name

This article began on 23 May 2004 describing Nalgene as a product brand name, and two days later was changed to describe Nalgene as the name of the manufacturer. There are subtle semantics involved, but now the article says, "Nalgene (sometimes referred to as Nalge Nunc International)". The semantics remain such that the statement may be literally true with a narrow reading; i.e., people do confuse product and corporate names, just as this article might be doing. However, that statement can also be interpreted to mean that Nalgene is the official name of the corporation and that Nalge Nunc International is a secondary or unofficial name of the corporation. As far as I can tell, Nalgene has always been a product brand name, but not a corporation name. If that's true, then the introduction should be clarified to say that Nalgene is a brand name for products from Nalge Nunc International. Does anyone have any reference to indicate whether or not Nalgene is or was a corporation name (as well as being a product name)? Thanks, --Rich Janis (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rabbits?

"Prevents rabbits from breaking their own backs?" Is this a bad thing? Can someone explain this, if only here? Hrhadam (talk) 23:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)