Talk:Naga City, Camarines Sur

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Someone put Elbert pogi after listing down Penafrancia, in the list of barangays of Naga City. Please take this out.


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[edit] New article to replace copyrighted one

The new article is at Naga City/Temp. Once the old page is deleted, please replace it with the new one. Thanks. TheCoffee 29 June :54 (UTC)

[edit] Naga City Income Class

Is Naga City "highly urbanized"? Based on the NSCB definition which is linked by the "Income Class" link in the infobar, the city is not highly urbanized because it did not meet the population criterion. The person who modified this is anonymous with its IP belonging to PLDT. Ianalis 14:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

It is not (yet) "highly urbanized" according to Philippine Census definitions.

This article reads more like a tourist brochure than an encyclopedia entry. It is full of unverified and/or unverifiable claims and superlatives such as "undeniably the most progressive city", "the acknowledged financial center". Acknowledged by whom? I would like to see concrete evidence of these claims, such as reliable sources and references. Otherwise, such claims are simply the writer's subjective views, violates Wikipedia's NPOV policy and have no place in an encyclopedia article. --87.194.3.169 21:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Based on latest statistic office criteria, no Bicolano city, much less Naga, can claim to be highly urbanized. In fact no Bicol city can even claim to be 1st class. I was told that in some city recognition contests in the Philippines, Naga has been categorized among highly urbanized cities. Hmmm. Anyway the tag "undeniably the most progressive city" is for the eyes to see. Perhaps you have to see for yourself why it's really like that. For individuals like me who travel and transact for business all over Bicol daily, it is not difficult to believe it so. As regards the "acknowledged financial center" thing, the central bank says so.--Bicololdtimer 07:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

With all due respect to Bicololdtimer, although you are correct in saying that no Bicol city has reached the "highly urbanized" status, you are wrong to say that there are no "first class" (in the Philippine Census sense of the term) city in the region. Naga and Legazpi cities are both first class cities according to government websites. As for the "undeniably most progressive city" tag, unfortunately, hearsay and personal opinion are not enough to prove this. Perhaps a more specific adjective would be better, such as "a business-friendly city" or "business-oriented culture" would be more appropriate, if this is what is meant by "progressive", which can mean anything. Furthermore, any remarks made by the Central Bank (or presumably someone who represents that institution) should be appropriately referenced, if not, it should be omitted. I think we should also avoid tourist-brochure language when writing about cities, provinces and countries. It would be great if someone could expand on the History section, which stops at 1948 - actually the same could be done for the other Bicol cities. I think this is better than listing all the FM and AM radio stations in the city. --87.194.3.169 20:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree that Naga is the center of religion in the region as this is the focal point of the Penafrancia Festival. But I have serious doubts about it being the financial, cultural, educational, ...etc...etc...center. According to this article it seems to be the center of everything in Bicol! It does sound very biased. --62.140.210.158 12:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Reading through article and as a Bicolana retired banker who lived and worked for decades each in Cam. Sur, Cam. Norte, and Albay provinces and finally settling down in Naga City, I can only agree Naga is center of almost everything in Bicol. Well, almost but not quite. It is not difficult to believe once you get to live in Naga and rest of places in Bicol, which incidentally is among depressed regions in the country. Being an employee who travelled a lot on the job for over 30 years, coming over to Naga I would notice vibrance and progress whose magnitude is lacking anywhere else in Bicol, with due respect to the other beautiful places, no offense meant. But I must hasten to add that perhaps only the blind won’t see the great difference. For one, available night life and variety of eating places are something to be thankful for and crow about in Naga. There are other aspects one cannot disagree about because of figures involved compared to other places. Center of religion, of course it’s Naga due to Penafrancia (though am not Catholic, but I can indulge). Educational center of course it’s Naga because it has most number of universities (6 in all, am teaching in 1 now) and other big institutions. Financial center of course it’s Naga since it has most no. of banks, than anywhere else in the region (remember I was a banker before). The sheer no. of banks alone is enough indication of progress because, believe you me, no bank would establish in a place if it’s not profitable to do so. Cultural center, well, I don’t know how that came to be, but that’s rather vague, so I don’t think so. SM, biggest retailer and mall owner with its businesswise management, has reportedly decided to build it’s 1st ever mall in Bicol in Naga. Also reportedly Pacific Mall in Naga is also to be constructed with a planned size twice bigger than that of its existing mall in another Bicol city (but seems to have chickened out because of SM’s plans). Rather than be accused as sounding very biased, perhaps people should come over and see and experience for themselves why Naga is where the main action is in Bicol now and profit from it.--Isarog Lass 12:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced content

I've marked the article as unreferenced. Although I agree with the people who mentioned good things about Naga (see above discussion), anectodal evidence is not enough in an encyclopedia. In fact, it's not allowed since it would be considered as original research, as far as I know. I tried adding {{fact}} tags but realized there's a lot to be inserted. I hope someone would add citations so that our (including me) assertion that Naga is great would be backed up. I encourage the posters above to add their references. I might add some in the future, if I have time. -- Ianalis 13:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Another user has kindly pointed out that Naga City is in fact rated

[edit] 'second class'

and PARTIALLY  urbanized (not highly urbanized) as per the NSCB's latest data (June 2007): http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/listcity.asp

--Agniilepurohutam 20:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Correction: According to the above link, Naga is now fully urbanized instead of partially - I amended the info box to reflect this. I checked to see if its status is already "highly urbanized". According to the same link it hasn't reached this category yet, maybe it will in the next Census, who knows. --Agniilepurohutam 20:20, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Someone edited out your revision. Anyway, can someone please recheck the NSCB data? It might be a typo or there might be some caveats there. I've checked the income statement of Naga City for the passed three years from its website and the income was always above P300M. I'm not a finance/accounting person so I might be wrong. And please cite data after doing so. -- Ianalis 02:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Naga City (Camarines Sur)

i think we must move this article to Naga City (Camarines Sur) because it's will be esay to search in wikipedia.--O.waqfi (talk) 12:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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