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Nachos are really good when you're high. It is said by many residents of Texas that Nachos originate there.

It is unlikely that the original name was Nacho's Especiales as Spanish does not use the apostrophe to denote ownership. also the translation for specialites is 'especialidades' in castellano at least.

Nachos would be nacho plural.

It sounds to me more like he was trying his best to speak English for the American women, and "Nacho's specials" came out 'Nachos especiales' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk • contribs)

Olives? I've never seen or heard of olives as a topping. Lefty 01:26, 2005 Mar 16 (UTC)

Then you never went to Taco Bell before they went cheap. ;-) --Roger McCoy 18:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Where is the sour cream?

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[edit] other cheese that goes with nacho chips?

Pretty sure there are people in the world who haven't truly experienced the warm gooey deliciousness of nachos, 216.232.171.41.Brady Clarke 06:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

umm your talking about nachos on wikipedia pretty sure you need a life...who cares what cheese you use? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.171.41 (talk) 03:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

What other cheeses besides melted cheddar "go" with nachos? I know I've seen a white cheese on nachos before, too (jack cheese? mozarella? not sure). --I am not good at running 17:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Jack is a common cheese, yes. --Bijhan 03:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

Yeah, the international nacho day thing isnt special enough to exist on its own, MERGE. Jack Cain 11:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV?

It says that melted chedder cheese with nachos is delicious. I agree, but it's still an opinion.

      No... I'm pretty sure that's fact.

[edit] Nacho Fesival website

http://mexicolesstraveled.com/nachofest.htm --Gbleem 03:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contorversy

Unless this news item has had a much larger impact on people's feelings about nachos in general than I imagine it has, I don't really think it desrves this much space (if any) on a general-info page about nachos. I have deleted the section entirely. If someone strongly feels that this info should be here, please re-write it to make it more concise and informative. (Or, at the very least, remove all of the superfluous paragraph breaks.) --Roger McCoy 18:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Nachos made out of corn aka. Corn Chips

Can anyone explain how they got around to making corn chips instead of tortilla chips? Usually its corn chips instead of tortilla chips - usually I find Corn Chips flavoured with "Nacho" cheese but now nachos is generally referred to Corn Chips and Cheese, rather than tortilla chips and cheese. So how did this happen? Timmah01 04:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


Corn chips are made from corn tortillas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heinzbitte (talk • contribs) 01:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

This page and the tortilla chips page contradict each other. The tortillas chips article says that they were created in the late 40s and that nachos are tortillas chips with cheese but this article says that nachos were created in 1943 (early 40s), that would be before tortilla chips were made. . That contradiction and the lack of citation for the source of the origin make me believe this article is wrong. --David13579 23:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Both articles are now sourced, showing that Webb merely popularized the chips, but that they were created as early as 1943 by Anaya. Please sign your talk posts with four tildes, as such: ~~~~. This will automatically be replaced with your signature. Happy editing, — Swpbtalk.edits 16:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nacho Cheese

"Processed cheese is often used in place of freshly shredded cheese in institutional or large-scale production settings, such as schools, movie theaters, sports venues, and convenience stores, or wherever using freshly grated cheese may be logistically prohibitive."

This statement is misleading. Where as it is true that institutional or large-scale venues do indeed usually serve this type of cheese on Nachos, they are far from being the only sort of places to do so. In the United States, especially on the East Coast this type of Nacho Cheese is often more popular than tradtional shredded cheese, both at resturaunts and in home use, and often both will be used.

"Such processed cheese is referred to informally in the United States as "nacho cheese", though the term "nacho cheese" does not denote any particular variety of cheese."

This statement is simply false. Tostitos and Frito-Lay (among 100s of off brands) sell products with the formal name of Nacho Cheese Dip. In all cases it is a semi-liquid/liquid form of processed cheese with various blends of Mexican spices in them. In order for that statement to be true there would need to be another formal name for this type of product, and everyone informally refer to it as Nacho Cheese. However, this is not the case, as Nacho Cheese is indeed the formal name of this product. If I seem a bit obsessed with Nacho Cheese it is because I have lived in Australia for the past 3 1/2 years and they do not carry the product Nacho Cheese, which was one of my favorite dips in the states. Livingston

If you can find and source a consistent, officially certified formulation of "nacho cheese", or evidence that "nacho cheese" has been formalized or trademarked, please add it to the article. — Swpbtalk.edits 22:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
As Nacho Cheese is a type of food that varies widely in specific recipies other than being made with processed cheese (as it would be impossible to make without this) there can of course be no "officially certified formulation" or trademark. Just the same you will not find any such supported evidence for any other dipping sauce in existence unless it is a special dip created by a specific company that hold a patent for said recipe. I would challenge you to find any such information for another "traditional" mexican dip such as salsa or guacamole. Such information does not exist for either for the exact same reason. It is an informal recipe that varies based on company or taste with 2-3 staple ingredients. Yet salsa and guacamole are not informal names for said sauce/dips, and they both have their own articles. Just the same you will find no such information for Nachos and it's toppings. The nacho chips themselves can be made from both flour or corn tortias and can be prepared or manufacured in dozens of different ways. There is no "official" legislation on what makes a nacho a nacho or what can be put on them. If it's a form of fried tortia cut into chip sizes then its called a nacho. Just the same, liquid processed cheese with Mexican spices (peppers/chillis) is called Nacho Cheese. There is no other known term for said food product. Just because it wasn't made traditionally in some foreign country outside of the US, doesn't mean it isn't a formal product. Here is a site with Taco Bell's brand of Nacho Cheese - http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c21gg.html. Livingston
You seem to have made my point exactly. "Nacho cheese" is not formally defined beyond individual brands, which is what the article indicates, but what you initially seemed to disagree with. So what's the problem? — Swpbtalk.edits 23:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
It is formally defined the same way any other dip is formally definied, such as salsa or guacamole, it is made of 2-3 staple ingredients and recipes vary. My point is that salsa and guacamole are not considered to be informal names, so why should nacho cheese be considered as such? Livingston —Preceding comment was added at 23:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what you mean by "formal" then, but it doesn't matter since the article doesn't use the word formal. We agree that the ingredients are not consistently specified - saying "nacho cheese" does not tell a person exactly what they are dealing with. So I really have no idea what you think is wrong with what the article says now. — Swpbtalk.edits 06:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The article is wrong in the fact that it implies that Nacho Cheese is only served when shredded cheese is unavailable or impractical, and that Nacho Cheese is an "informal" term that doesn't denote any particular variety of cheese. It is not an "informal" term and it denotes a very specific variety of cheese, that being a semi-liquid/liquid form of processed cheese with peppers/chilies added, which is indeed a particular variety of cheese. If you read the article on processed cheese you will understand that processed cheese is the only type of cheese that can be served in the form of Nacho Cheese, as all "pure" cheeses will separate when heated to melting point, before they will form a cohesive liquid. Thus processed cheese is the only variety of cheese with which Nacho Cheese can be made from. In no way shape or form is the term Nacho Cheese informal or ambiguous in any way, it is a very specific term. Any product you come by which is labeled Nacho Cheese (at least on the East Coast of the US) will be a sauce made from processed cheese, with chilies/peppers added to it. So you do indeed know exactly what you are dealing with. This article seems to be your baby, and frankly I don't really care enough about it to change it myself. I was simply pointing out the fact that your information is erroneous and misleading, which it is. If you disagree, that's fine leave it as it is, but you have yet to provide an argument of any substance what so ever that would support your claim that it is an informal term. Livingston 11:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not really my fault that your arguments are nearly incomprehensible. It's processed cheese. The article already says that. Now go play outside. — Swpbtalk.edits 05:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
How are my arguments incomphrehensible? What part of "Nacho Cheese is not an informal name" don't you get? You really can't be as thick as you are pretending to be. The truth of the matter is you are playing dumb because you have wrote false information on the article and can not defend it with any proper sources. Unless you aren't a native English speaker, which would explain a lot.Livingston 21:35, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I've spent more time and effort arguing with you than it would have taken to write it in the article. So I've taken your advice and done so. Livingston 22:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Good job. You still don't have a source for what can and can't be called nacho cheese, but hey, when has Wikipedia ever cared about sources, right? — Swpbtalk.edits 23:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
First of all you had no sources at all for the paragraph you wrote on it. And actually there are 3 sources there for the manufacturers of products called nacho cheese - Frito-lay, Tostitos, and Taco Bell, which all use the same basic ingredients as I have now listed on the article. What on earth makes you think that there needs to be sources for things that can't be called nacho cheese? That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps if I mentioned some thing in the article about things that couldn't be called nacho cheese, but I haven't, thus why would there need to be a source? Furthermore show me where such sources exist on the articles for salsa and guacamole. Livingston 03:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)