Talk:Mythological king

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[edit] Kings of Myths, and Legends

I think this article is very interesting, with a great deal which may be said. If it is a study of protagonists in ancient tales which is to be done, though, I wonder at the definition. Certainly Mythological kings is a good title, although is the article to exclude kings of nearer legendary status. The norse sagas are the perfect example of the deeds of men, which are mythic, while legendary, as far as the inclusion of, truish, events, may be seen as historical, while also mysterious. Myths and legends walk hand in hand, I am sure, yet kings such as Cnut, Charlemagne, and the heroes, like CuChulain, Fionn MacCumhaill, Krishna, William Wallace, and the rest, which denote leaderships, nationalities and religions, are, surely, instances, mythological fantasies, and the hard facts, and fictions, of true lives which are legendary realities, overlap. Jesus is wrapped in myths, with a legendary reality at the core of the stories which comprise the Bible. Is his crucifixion a myth, or legend?

Viking stories entwine the gods in Valhalla with the lives of kings to strengthen leadership's, nationality and religiousity. With the tangles of deep woods, dragons and giants, to threaten people in the tales, the deeds of the men in them ring true to reality, their holy weapons blessed, and the feasting wondrous, yet all within the realms of human strengths, as well as weaknesses. Reality is at the heart of all legends, while storyteller's liscence wraps it in a shroud of mystery. So, is it reasonable to say there should be a distinction between the legendary aspects of kings, and heros, and mythical, otherness, which expands on the reality which is maybe a finer yarn if spun with a little fantasy in?

WikieWikieWikie 01:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

HI. This page is supposed to be on the same order as the Trickster and Culture Hero pages, describing a traditional mythological archetype of kings, the qualifications and definition per literary sources, and "kingship" themes. As for the definition, the page is titled so people can link to it from other pages, i.e. to say he was a "mythological king" then link to this page. The book I am using concentrates on the myth and themes of kingship from dark ages to modern day. In some cases there is a fuzzy area between kings who are legend (real) and kings who are mythological ^existing in mythology^. The mythological ones seem to be have earned the title, by representing and symbolizing something very exciting to the culture. One further theme I have to add is that the king is symbolic of the health of the kingdom. i.e. sick king means sick society, healthy king means healthy society, and distant king means the society in danger. Goldenrowley 04:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)