Talk:Mystere incident

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Since the language on this page is a bit strong, is there not a policy where the potential of such should be toned down? --Mnemnoch 02:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The policy you're probably thinking of is WP:NPOV. If you think the language should be toned down, you could tag the page with {{POV}} or another cleanup tag. --Nick—Contact/Contribs 02:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the guy who created this article. I don't contribute to Wikipedia much but was surprised there was no mention of an Everquest incident that dominated gaming news for a week.

I think NickW577 didn't really understand the problem you had with the article and directed you to the wrong policy. I don't see how the section you removed has to do with POV. I mean, it's there in the story (comment #64); He took her savagely, and when she had trouble getting lubricated, he used a knife to cut her labia, using the blood as lubricant. There it is, it's not anyone's opinion or point of view that it's in there (although I admit I misquoted it a bit, my bad).

I think it's more that you find the graphicness of the image offensive, but that's precisely why Mystere was banned so quickly (or at least how it appeared at the time, contrary to Smedley's later blog), and pretty relevant. I rather think the policy NickW577 should have directed you to is this one, doubly so because the section doesn't even contain profanity.

As far as POV is concerned, I'll tell you mine; I was a devout EQ player at the time, but I didn't even play on Mystere's server. I disliked the story intensely (both for its content and because I thought it poorly written), but at the time, was angry that Verant banned someone for something they did away from their official domain of servers and message-boards, and thought their argument about intellectual property use weak. Smedley's blog showed me that nobody outside of Mystere and Verant knew what the real story was, so now, I really don't have an opinion, other than that the story sucks.

I really tried to present both sides of the incident as best as I could, but of course having people even further distanced (ie. non-EQ players or people who followed the incident at the time) judge whether I succeeded is a good thing. Regardless, I don't think the portion you removed had anything to do with POV and more about how frigging gross it was.

As for the other tag you put on the article, I'm not really sure how to address that at all. How does it read like a review? A. Swearengen 07:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I just read a post from someone who claims to have been involved at http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=395380 "My long-time EQ/EQ2 guild is the guild Mystere was in when that happened. The player was banned because of a false accusation of real-world pedophilia. The short version is: Mystere was reported to Verant by a player who had a history of stalking and harassing our guild, writing insult-laden emails to our guild leaders, following them around the various message boards and calling them "pathetic losers", etc etc. The accuser claimed that Mystere was trying to literally seduce his (the accuser's) little brother via the game. However, the accuser didn't actually have a brother, little or otherwise. Once that came to light, Verant still wouldn't back down from their public stance. But they did let Mystere's player back into the game, provided he played a different character." Obviously this isnt a reliable source, however it does bring into question some of the "facts" posted in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.118.221 (talk) 01:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)