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Article milestones Date Process Result May 11, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed May 23, 2007 Good article nominee Listed May 27, 2007 Featured topic candidate Promoted Current Status: Good article

Contents 1 Failed GA 2 Bob Saget 3 Other sources 4 GApassed 5 GA Sweeps (Pass)

[edit] Failed GA

The production section is hardly interesting. The reception section needs to also be enlivened with quotes from reviewers. Alientraveller 16:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

We can only add as much as the sources allow and unfortunately, the sources didn't allow much. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 01:17, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Saget

When Lisa calls goodnight to Wiggum she says "Enjoy Bob Saget!" which Wiggum has confused with a Bob Seger concert and says "Aw, crap". Not being a USAsian I had never known who Bob Saget was until chancing upon the wikipedia entry. After having the unfortunate experience of sitting through some of "America's Funniest Home Videos" I now know why Wiggum was so disappointed. Might be worth a mention in the plot summary just so us Europeans know who the heck they are referring to.80.177.19.172 01:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other sources

I'm going to recommend some other sources and potential areas for expansion. One, print sources should be consulted. I'm sure there have been more episode guides published than the one available online at the BBC website, and I'm sure this episode was reviewed in periodicals at the time. Two, I'm surprised that more couldn't be gleaned from a half-hour DVD commentary. Third, since the plot is an obvious play off of The Baby-sitters Club series, there should be some discussion of that and what aspects of the books the story may be satirizing.--Pharos 00:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I listened to it three times in hopes of getting some good info and there really isn't much, unless I wanted to add a bunch of NN stuff that wouldn't normally make it onto the page. As for finding other sources, I have done several google searches and have found little from reliable sources, and I have checked all of the Simpsons books I own and found nothing of use. And, adding a section about the satire of the babysitters club without a source would be OR. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 02:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I went through Google Books, and found two discussions of this episode that touch on broader topics in the series. The Psychology of the Simpsons: D'oh! (pp. 224-225) discusses the episode in the context of the treatment of anger in the series. Planet Simpson: How a Cartoon Masterpiece Defined a Generation (pp. 106-107) discusses the episode in the context of realism vs. satire. I hope these are useful. I'll help you if you have any trouble accessing Google Books. The Baby-sitters Club is discussed directly on the BBC page. By the way, I noticed in one of the accounts that the complete name is the "South Street Squidport"; if that's so (I haven't seen this myself recently), it's obviously a play on the South Street Seaport in Manhattan. And if none of that is sufficient, it probably would be OK to put in some marginal stuff mentioned in the DVD commentary.--Pharos 02:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I've already looked at Planet Simpson and it's really not useable. Basically, it talks about how the squidport is an example of the consumer culture, but I don't know where it would fit. Production? Reception? Cultural references? If you think you can help make the article longer, then by all means please help. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 02:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe a 'Theme' section like in Homer's Phobia could discuss some of the broader issues. I'm not really a Simpsons fan, so I'm not sure how much I can write about this myself, but I do feel obliged because of my opposition to the FT to help you find more sources.--Pharos 03:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I have used your suggestions to expand the article slightly. I don't think it can become much longer. --Maitch 10:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. There's some more scholarly analysis of the Squidport in this article (PDF, pp. 8-9 in the file 214-215 in the actual journal) from Critical Studies in Media Communication. Also, should we mention that the Squidport is a location in The Simpsons Hit & Run?--Pharos 11:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't think we can use the pdf for anything, because it is saying some of the same stuff as Turner does. Also, I think that mentioning Squidport as a location in a video game is trivia. --Maitch 11:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Btw I think we have suffient material for GA status now. If Mountain of Madness can become a GA, then it should be possible for this article. --Maitch 12:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulating on passing this as GA, and getting the FT complete. I still think the PDF has an interesting little cultutral analysis of the Moe's Tavern relocation gag which you might consider adding, but I'll leave that to your discretion since I'm no Simpsons specialist. Thanks.--Pharos 04:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GApassed

Meets the criteria as well as it possibly can, and is of a similar quality to the rest of the episode articles for this season. GA is not "FA minus one"; GAs are good articles — articles that meet most of our policies and guidelines and provide a general idea of what a decent article should be. — Deckiller 16:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

The prose could use some work, but again, it's generally clear and grammatically correct. However, anyone with free time should definitely take some time to give the article a good copy-edit. — Deckiller 16:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Sweeps (Pass)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, MASEM 04:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)