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An outbuilding of Skylands Manor at Ringwood State Park
An outbuilding of Skylands Manor at Ringwood State Park
The State Botanical Garden at Skylands
The State Botanical Garden at Skylands


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[edit] Camp Topridge

Hi Mwanner -- Really nice pic and nice article on Camp Topridge, which I noticed you had inserted on the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. On its talk page, I added the article to the Wikiproject for National Register of Historic Places WP:NRHP and the Wikiproject for New York. A great place to announce new articles on sites that are on the National Register is the WP:NRHP main page. I took the liberty of adding it there.

Unlike a couple other Adirondack Great Camps, Camp Topridge is not, however, a NHL, so I will delete it from the list of NHLs in New York. NHLs are listed by the National Park Service; you can access a complete National Park Service listing from the bottom of the List of NHLs in NY article.

I'm glad you found your way to contributing the Camp Topridge article. I hope you might contribute photos and editing on other NRHP sites. You'd be very welcome to join WP:NRHP as a member; if you'd like to, just add yourself to the list there and say something on the talk page. Keep up the good work! doncram 18:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I found my way to your photos at Ringwood State Park and I have used one as the illustration for a recently created separate article Ringwood Manor. When I had visited this talk page, i had noticed "Ringwood Manor" in the title for the pic here, and came back to browse around more, eventually finding the Ringwood State Park article. (By the way, I did just revise the title of the pic on this talk page, to clarify it is not of Ringwood Manor itself.) Thanks! doncram 16:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great Camps photos and articles

Thanks for your reply. As a matter of fact, there is great need for pics of Adirondack Great Camps that are NRHPs. Nine out of 10 great camps covered in a 1986 "multiple property submission" NRHP listing document lack photos (the document, with extensive info on them, is linked from Great Camps article). All 10 of these are now NRHPs (and 4 are also now NHLs). With Camp Topridge that makes at least 11 great camp NRHPs. I expanded Great Camps to list them and I created stub articles for the missing ones. I was inspired to do all this because your Camp Topridge article prompted me to get back to look more carefully for any other great camps, and then I found my way to the multiple property submission document. A while back i had created articles only for the great camps that are NHLs as part of working on List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. I am not positive, but I think there are now stub articles for all the great camps that are NRHP listed. (Hmm, but is "Whelan Camp" on Long Lake a great camp? Is "Camp Intermission" on Saranac Lake, aka William Morris House, a great camp? ) It would be, well, "great" if you could take photos and otherwise develop these. Keep me posted! Cheers. P.S. I love the Adirondacks, have backpacked and canoed extensively up there. doncram 17:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Received your messages re development you've done on Great Camps and related articles, which i just browsed (except saving your article on the cure cottages till later). Nice work on the rest! You asked whether there is an individual document describing Flat Rock Camp, separate from the multiple property submission. There may be.... The way to find out is to inquire by email to the National Park Service. I have found that the NRHP registration/inventory documents are on-line at NPS only for selected NRHP sites, including most of the NHLs. For vast majority of NRHPs, there are documents but not on-line. You can request them to send you a copy of documents (including photos) for any NRHP, to your postal address, and you will receive it by postal mail in a week or two. I have put in requests so for only one or two, but it works (send your request to nr_reference@nps.gov ). Keep up the good work! doncram (talk) 16:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other Adirondack photos needed

I am bothered by lack of photos on other articles I have worked on for sites in or near the Adirondacks. These include:

Going further afield:

I hope that some of these might interest you, or that you might browse to find any others near you or your travels that are listed in List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. Again that is sortable by town location and by county. I and a few others are hoping to get "featured article" or "featured list" status for that article soon. Shoring it up with a few more photo thumbnails would help. By the way I put a thumbnail of your Ringwood Manor photo into the List of NHLs in NH, too. You are really a very good photographer from what I've seen, too; I really like your images. doncram 18:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Got your reply and request on Saranac Lake "cure" houses. Not sure what "cure" means, but your comment that it probably merits just one article probably makes sense. Here's the link to big PDF for Saranac Lake MPS, in case you don't have it yet. Oh, I get it, the cure is about curing, like taking a cure by going to a health spa.... Anyhow, I am focussing on NHLs, elsewhere, and these Saranac Lake properties are all yours, as far as I am concerned. I look forward to visiting them sometime (the article at least). :) doncram 19:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] D & H canal

Thanks! Feel free to check out Springside (Matthew Vassar Estate), another Hudson Valley National Historic Landmark that I just expanded. Daniel Case 06:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Blank maps#Adirondack Park Map Request

Replied. Jackaranga 21:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] David Ginty article

this is responding to your input on my talk page (permalink to specific talk-page version)

I've not thought deeply about notability of academic biographies before, but this affords me the opportunity to take a closer look.

  • COI: Though writing that is or appears to be subject to COI is discouraged, as long as the tone, support and factual accuracy and supporting citatoins are there and the content is NPOV, it is marginally acceptable, particularly if the COI input does not constitute the only substantive editing input and there is no whiff of article ownership.
  • Investigator's notability based on awards: I took a look at WP:PROF and Dr. Ginty probably does meet the notability guidelines described there. Most of the awards mentioned are young investigator-type awards, but achievements nonetheless, and the R37 is pretty significant as is being a Howard Hughes Investigator. If you work in academia (as I once did) you know how difficult it is to maintain a steady flow of funding.
  • Investigator's notability based on 3rd party publications: This particular guideline element does not appear to be met yet, but I did not dig deeply. However, the (yet to be found) press releases from the awarding bodies might well fit that requirement.

This is certainly not a candidate for either Speedy Deletion or PROD; if deletion based on notability grounds is desired, it should go straight to AFD. I cleaned up the references and added a couple more myself while looking at the article.

I hope this helps and was along the lines of input you were seeking. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Veropedia articles

Thanks for your note. While it would be wonderful to see links from Wikipedia to Veropedia, we are completely separate from the WMF, and I fear that for me to push links of that kind would be interpretted as spamming. Having said that, I add that we are not using Wikipedia's scoring system as guidelines. I have found too many problems in FAs, some of which require considerable work, while many of the lesser rated articles are actually gems that could use a little polish but offer very comprehensive coverage of a topic. As such, we are leaving it to our contributors to determine quality, and, eventually, to our reviewers to determine whether the articles really are in good shape. Danny (talk) 23:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I would have no problem with either. It depends on what the community thinks. Danny (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Barnstar

You're very welcome. Also, if you don't mind will you sign my autograph page? • EvanS :: talk § email § photos • 00:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bellmont, New York

Hi Mwanner

I noticed that you deleted this article that I spent a few months obtaining and then typed in by hand due to its fragile state.

Apparently the grandson of an original settler didn't have Kate Turabian at hand, so this primary source document gets deleted? Amazing. This article has resided here a long time, and many have referred to this in our area.

You have absolutely no idea how accurate this material is. If you read through that article, he's talking about people that settled here--whom he knew, such as the Bellows, Miles, as well as his grandfather Charles Kirby. These are all original pioneers. This is serious history that I've provided.

This is the same John Smith Kirby that was owner of the Banner House, which I believe is the first Adirondack Hotel, known as the Lake House operated by Lewis Bellows the son of Jonathan Bellows. There are so many key facts in that piece, that it's a shame to cut it out.

However, I don't give a rip.

It always amazes me when people like you erase history with absolutely no thought regarding the ethics of their ignorant acts. You may be an over-educated idiot, but you obviously have absolutely no clue, and is exactly why Wikipedia has such a terrible reputation.

Those are my ancestors, and there aren't very many around that remember. Shame on you.

John D. Miles, Chateaugay Lake —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunsmire (talk • contribs) 02:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I did not delete the piece you entered, I copied it to the article's Talk page, here, with the comment that, although it was good material, it needs work to turn it into an encyclopedic entry. An encyclopedia is not just a collection of source materials-- it is edited, to make a coherent, concise account. I would invite you to do that, to help make Wikipedia the best encyclopedia that it can be. Imagine what our articles would look like if we encouraged folk to just copy their favorite essays, speeches, magazine articles, etc. into relevant Wikipedia articles-- I don't think the result would be a lot of fun to read, do you?
As for Wikipedia's reputation, it appears to me that it gets better and better-- the occasional attacks one sees in the press originate mostly from over-credentialled academicians who are worried about their turf. Last I looked, Wikipedia was among the top 10 websites worldwide. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 02:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saranac Lake

Hello, I just wanted to thank you for your work on the Saranac Lake page. I grew up in the area (Vermontville) and went to school in the town. I keep up with it and help edit it on Wikipedia just as a sort of hobby.

Thanks again, Cs302b (talk) 12:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erie Canal pic Lock Eleven, Amsterdam, New York

Hi Mwanner -- I came across the image showing a wooden barge in 1941 that you had added to the Schoharie Crossing State Historic Site article. Upon further study, I decided the image, taken at Lock 11 in Amsterdam, could not be a picture of the Schoharie Crossing site at Fort Hunter, or part of the larger canal preservation site even though the site includes 3.5 miles of canal. Amsterdam is a bit more than 3.5 miles away from Fort Hunter. I also found HABS photos for the Schoharie Crossing Aqueduct, so I added one of those instead, and removed the one you added. Hope you don't mind. It bothers me simply to remove it though, because it seems like it should illustrate something, perhaps the Erie Canal article. Hope u are well. doncram (talk) 19:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:DerrySeal.jpg

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[edit] American Revolution GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

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[edit] Image source problem with Image:Robert Livingsston Jr (1663-1725),.jpg

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[edit] AfD nomination of Dude

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[edit] Hi Mwanner

I have been reading the article on Johannes Roothaan and I see that you are credited with the image (Roothaan.jpg). I was wondering if you could tell me where you found the image originally? Thanks very much! Laura (artist@lauradenhertog.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauradenhertog (talk • contribs)

[edit] Thanks for your help!

Just popping in to say Thank you, I am much obliged for the information. Laura

[edit] Revised Wikipedia requested photographs in Florida

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[edit] Chemung County and Elmira New York articles

Hello Mwanner. I posted a response to your thoughts on the Chamber of Commerce issue on the Chemung County Talk page.

I also wanted to comment on your removal of the content from www.cityofelmira.net on the Elmira, New York article. I did not add the original content, but I did approve the use of the material. I am the Webmaster of the City of Elmira and developed the content for the city website. As the original author, I have given permission for the republication of this information on Wikipedia. I do think the information is useful, but can understand how some may feel it bogs down the article. This is why I did not add the content back to the Elmira, New York article. So my point is - if the information has been removed because of the copyright violation, then there is none and if I need to do something to explicity permit the use of the info, then I can. If the info was removed to streamline the article, then I have no objection to its removal.

Thanks for your consideration on both issues. Souldrifter (talk) 02:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] West Mifflin, Pennsylvania

I did not understand this edit. How wikimetro is spam? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] referrel to WP:EL

Thanks. I know where the EL policies are, I just don't know what they all are! Offer of help still appreciated. Bob98133 (talk) 13:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, thanks for pulling out vandalism I accidently restored in Mink article! Bob98133 (talk) 13:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Robert_Livingston_(1708-1790).jpg

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[edit] Minnie Dole

Thank you for adding to the article! Jrclark (talk) 18:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)