Talk:Mutter

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most depressing cd ever, or would be if i spoke German

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[edit] cover = ?

Is the cover a dead baby? Jackpot Den 11:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


On the cover is a photograph of an dead unborn fetus. Visit www.daniel-geo-fuchs.com Adonis 04:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Best album?

Mutter (German for "mother") is Rammstein's third studio album. It was released in 2001. It is sometimes cited by fans as Rammstein's best album.

Well, yeah... I like it too, but isn't this too subjective? I know it's liked by the fans who first noticed the band at this time and didn't really have the experience of the first too. This is probably due to the fact that this album is much 'poppier' than those preceding it.

--213.169.29.27 08:35, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] adios

when clicking the link to the songs page it fw bavk to mutter page, so, there is a page for the song or not, and if so, how can i get to him, it keeps redirect me to mutter. if there aint, delete the link.

[edit] Regarding Nebel

In the song Nebel, the meaning is said to be about a woman who dies in her lover's arms, however, it can also be interperated as a man dieing in the arms of the woman he loved, as the last line translates to "the last kiss; he does not remember it anymore" (Unofficial Translation ©2003 Jeremy Williams), meaning that he would have died, there, and thus, forgotten.


[edit] Differnet links

This album went back to sehnsucht, however sehnsucht goes to Live aus Berlin after it. I corrected that error by putting Live aus Berlin as the preciding album.

[edit] Redirect from Adios

Is there a reason that the rammstein song "Adios" redirects to this article, yet many other rammstein songs (not all of them have been singles: [1]) have their own article? I'm kind of new to all this...

--Loki Laufeyson 23:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Mein Herz Brennt

This song makes absolutely NO reference to the Metallica song "Enter Sandman". A correct explanation which can be found on herzeleid.com is that "Part of this song is actually taken from a children's show called Das Sandmännchen (The Little Sandman)", and if you follow the link (http://herzeleid.com/en/faq/mutter#faq4) you will see this in the FAQ:

"Das Sandmännchen (The Little Sandman) is a TV show from Germany that started in the mid-1950s. Every night the show would come on and the das Sandmännchen would tell bedtime stories. Each show started out with "Nun, liebe Kinder, gebt fein Acht. Ich habe euch etwas mitgebracht" ("Now, dear children, pay attention. I have brought something for you"). This should sound similar already.

The working title for "Mein Herz brennt" was actually "Sandmann" ("Sandman"). Basically das Sandmännchen was nice and good, but the subject of the song that Till has dreamed up is quite the opposite. In fact, he was even worse in a previous incarnation of the song played at the Fanabend concert in April 2000 at the Knaack Klub, Berlin. In the old version, a man has killed the real sandman and stolen his hair to look like him. He shows up for the children instead of who they were expecting."

I don't want to edit that section, as almost every explanation there is mostly speculation. Ich Will is only a song to get the crowd pumped up and get their attention? This section needs a LOT of work. --Luminotron 06:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll edit it. There is a lot of information in interviews, etc, regarding this album, and I can give you better summaries (less subjective, more grounded in reality, I promise). I will try to attribute every claim. :) CherryAAS 16:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You probably missunderstood the meanig of the song "Mein Herz brennt". OK, you're right. "Der Sandmann" was a TV-Show in the GDR. But this Sandman is not mean. In contrast to the "Sandmännchen" from Eastern-Germany Rammstein meant the Sandmann by the German author E.T.A. Hoffmann from the 19. century. His version is very darker and a little bit cruel and you can't compare it to the version you meant. Der Sandmann is a person who frightens the children, they fear him very much! The East-Sandmann is a friendly person. Nice greatings from Germany. --80.128.79.100 22:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Song Summaries

Maybe it's just me, but aren't most, if not all, of the song summaries on this page totally out of line? I generally think of the songs up for interpretation, but these are all stating in an authoritative manner the users apparent interpretations of the song as though they were facts, not to mention extrapolating some pretty iffy conclusions; "Note in the video that Till is speaking into the camera, but behind the camera there shows someones arm, with blood dripping down it, showing the brutality of the "criminals", unseen by the public", unless someone could cite very explicit explanations for these claims, I think they need to be cleared out. What does everyone thing? Col.clawhammer 21:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC) Just a newb here, but I agree. The article caught my attention because of the line "In response to accusations of being nazis" (Links, 2, 3, 4). I dont know if this sort of thing is done, but I feel this section should be taken out... These are VERY subjective opinions.

Also, the meaning of "Ich will" can be dual. It can also mean "I intend to" in the form "Ich will es tun" - I will do it. My point is that it does not have to be passive, it can me more nuanced than that. I do not know Rammsteins intentions, so I will not make the point in the article itself but someone else might clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.230.148.3 (talk) 11:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Mutter

Template:Mutter has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Douglasr007 01:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)