User talk:Musser

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Hope to see you around!

~~Shiri — Talk~~ 03:06, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Let me post a little about myself.Musser
That's great, but you can put that on your specified user page (User: Musser). Just cut and paste that stuff down there and save it on that page. ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 03:26, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll get it figured out soon. :) Musser

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[edit] Reverts

Ah! I see we were both reverting Tides of Blood at the same time. I was one version older than you - but I don't mean to suggest that it was better! Musser 19:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No worries, I had no opinion one way or the other about the edit you reverted and I didn't. And better to have too many of us cleaning up vandalism than none of us! -- Coneslayer 19:58, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)

[edit] Minuteman Bikeway

It was nice to take a break from reverting vandalism and do a little positive editing! I see you're new around here; welcome, and many happy edits. FreplySpang (talk) 22:33, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zap, North Dakota

Hey, I don't want you and that anon to get in an edit war over that town. Even if you are (understandably) suspicious of an anon, it's best to assume good faith before reverting a page. It would have been better to ask him on his user talk if you were unsure about the validity of his claim. ^_^ See you around, ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 02:26, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

I know, I was going to move that diatribe to your talk but I didn't know if you would mind or not. I'm glad I didn't offend you by trying to steer you in the right direction. Last time I did that (I asked someone to add image copyright tags), I was called "brusque." Great job on Zap, and even better job fighting vandalism. By the way, you may be dragged into these sorts of fights periodically when you edit Wikipedia (there's always people trying to push an agenda, etc.), so don't be discouraged. ;) ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 01:27, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC) Oh, and I wouldn't have really promoted the good faith thing if I knew that he was repeatedly copy-pasting from the web site. Still, it's always better to discuss things with users, even if their behavior is less than rational. ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 01:36, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Visitor Comment

Visitor comment: Hmmm, I am curious as to whether you own the Wikipedia website or are just a self-appointed censor. The article on Zap, North Dakota you "edited" actually deleted everything other than the link to the town's website which mentioned what was probably the key event in the town's history. What are we to make of this?

Is is not noteworthy if you do not deem it to be so?

If there is a spelling or grammatical error, no matter how minor, you have the right to determine it is incomprehensible and can therefore be deleted? This wouldn't have been so funny had we not caught you in an error of your own-- right on this page.

If the information is available from some other source, you have the right to decide it can be deleted from Wikipedia? If we go by that standard, it is going to be a pretty narrow website.

Finally, if you can't determine user meaning or figure out who to contact for clarification, then you have the right to delete?

You might have tried the links right on the official city website and asked them to explain the meaning. (I can't help but wonder how many other people found the website understandable, but then I'm speaking from the viewpoint of an inferior ethnic minority who grew up in a small town.) Of course, given you obvious superiority and command of the English language, you probably could not stoop to talking to inferior small townspeople in North Dakota for fear they might not be able to communicate on your level.

So what's the conclusion? Anyone wishing to add facts to Wikipedia should first contact you and get permission, making sure their spelling and grammar is perfect? Does it matter that you yourself violated this rule?

The people of Zap, North Dakota had much of their town severely damaged in a rock concert gone awry in 1969. Do you know what they did? The invited the revelers back for a 30 year reunion in 1999. That shows really class even if you want to nitpick about a minor error or two in grammar on their official city website.

How about showing at least a fraction of the class and restoring what you deleted, even if it is in a format you deem acceptable grammar?

The appeal of Winipedia is that anyone (yes, even we ignorant ethnic minorities from rural America) can add facts to the database. Just as you would not appreciate us deleting something about places or events about which you had first-hand knowledge, we do not appreciate you censoring material on our state and community.

And, no, we're not going come asking your permission to edit what is advertised as a website that anyone with additional knowledge can edit. Someday, you will have to get a life other than self-appointed Wikipedia censor. That is if you and others of your ilk do not kill off the useful features of the website first with your censorship of information and ideas.

The people of Zap, North Dakota are too classy and polite to tell you this, but since I've moved away and am familiar with the facist attitudes of those who look down on my people, you can expect a taste of your own medicine if you don't learn the difference between editing (grammar and spelling corrections are generally appreciated) and censorship (deletion or coloring of facts are not appreciated).

[edit] Response

I am amazed that someone (67.186.13.86 to be clear) who is lazy enough to cut and paste a sentence (twice) from the Town of Zap website which does not make any sense to someone unfamiliar with the Zip to Zap has the time and motivation to make eight edits to my user page, some of it blatant vandalism that users other than myself reverted. Adding "prostitute" to my list of former professions is a great way to make a point. You'll notice also, that the first sentence of this response is, to any reasonable reader, a run on sentence. Why? Because I would rather spend my time editing and writing actual articles than working on my user page.

The comment above clearly took a little bit of time to write. If even a quarter of that time and effort had been put into writing something coherent about the Zip to Zap then none of this exchange would be taking place.

For anyone reading this later, I'm going to post the sentence which I deleted twice from the Zap, North Dakota page. Please judge for yourself whether or not it makes any sense: ' On May 10, 1969, Zap had the only official riot in North Dakota where the National Guard was called in to disperse the crowd. It was called the "Zap In" and people from all over the United States "Zipped to Zap".'

In order to facilitate the ending of this issue, I've researched and written something about the Zip to Zap. Have a read and please, please, please... Add if you have something to add. Delete if I've made a mistake, or if it's just plain terrible!

Now let's get back to Wikipedia, everyone. This is not what I am here for. Musser 01:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Response to your response:

67.186.13.86 here. Since you have restored what you've previously destroyed, I accept your gesture and call a truce. At some point in the future I may edit your comments slightly, but I will not destroy or censor what you have written. Peace.

[edit] Mud

Well, I've found a source ([1]), although I don't think it's the one I actually used. That still leaves the question of what exactly it means, of course. Mark1 02:10, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Digital AMPS

The information I had was actually from a Rogers employee. When 800MHz TDMA equipment fails, they don't replace it, and the coverage has been shrinking ever since. Regular AMPS service, however, is still being maintained. Rogers eventually hopes to move all their customers over to GSM, and even shut down AMPS. They hope to at least start this by 2007ish. Snickerdo 21:48, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Aluminium sulfate

Thanks for your interest in the aluminium sulfate article. I myself am just going from memory here, but I am fairly sure that it has several different hydrates, so that both 16H2O and 18H2O are correct. I have reverted your change to the table for the time being, as it is quite possible that the rest of the data in the table (eg CAS number) refer to the 16H2O hydrate: I promise I will look into this, and in the meantime I have left a note on the talk page for other editors. Physchim62 08:21, 29 September 2005 (UTC)