User talk:MusicMaker5376

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

User Page	Sandboxes	Desktop	Toolbox	Works	Contribs	Talk

Hi! Thanks for visiting my talk page! If you're coming here to yell at me for something stupid I've done, please take a moment to defuse by looking at this picture of Charo. Unless you request otherwise, I will respond here. If you are responding to something left on your talk page, I will respond there. Please sign your posts by using four tildes: ~~~~ —  MusicMaker5376

[edit] Re: Hey man...

Yes, I've been working to add some of the Live Phish Downloads into the Phish pages. It's taking some time, but I'm trying to get 2-3 pages done per day. Please feel free to add in anything to those pages you feel would be beneficial to others. Rjvaughn1979 (talk) 13:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hair categories

Someone changed some of the Hair categories today. Do you agree with these? I am skeptical, but I will follow your lead. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I saw that, too. Since the article is not about the album, I would say that the Psychedelic Album cat can go. But, I think it's only tangentially LGBT. The show isn't about LGBT themes; the characters that would be classified as gay or bisexual certainly don't self-identify as such. I don't really think it's appropriate. —  MusicMaker5376 21:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Categories (Phish)

I can change the LivePhish Download sorting today so they'll show up by date, that's not a problem. I did redirects for shows that are available as both download and CD (i.e., the ones already listed in the Live Phish Series, like 2-28-03, 7-15-03, Brooklyn, etc.). Even though they were commercially released later, they were released first as downloads. I just thought that those shows are part of the whole LivePhish Downloads package, which is why I included them with the rest. But, if you think it's redundant, go ahead and make the changes as necessary. I just wanted to let you know why I did what I did. Hope that makes sense! Rjvaughn1979 (talk) 12:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you added Colorado 88 to the Downloads category. Are you going to add Vegas 96, Brooklyn, and New Year's 95 in there? Also, are you just going to have those in the category sorted by title, or by date like the others? Rjvaughn1979 (talk) 13:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I like the new template, good job. I'll go ahead and keep making pages then adding the shows to the template as I go. I'm also putting the cover art in them as I get more time. Check out livephish.com though, because I think there are 4 on there that aren't on the category: Vegas, New Year's, Brooklyn, and even the White Tape. Rjvaughn1979 (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sweeney Todd

Here seems as good a place as any to reply. The stage show is through-sung, eeeh? Hmm. Probably. I guess I could be wrong. It's just, I've seen videos of it on YouTube. And listened to the cast recording. And I thought I heard dialogue between and before songs. I mean, look at this video of the Showtime production. It's parts like 4:44 to 5:05, or 6:14 to 7:02, or 9:11 to 9:29, that threw me off and made me think there was unsung dialogue in the play. But you're probably right. VolatileChemical (talk) 03:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MUSICALS

Hi, MM. I think that your response on the talk page will discourage people from helping start an article. Would you kindly not undermine my efforts to get people to help us at the project? I am glad that we seem to be getting along a little better lately, and I would ask that you please try to be supportive of what I am trying to accomplish, at least when you do not disagree with me. I always try to support your initiatives, except in the rare instances where I really disagree with you. I guess you were trying to make a joke, and I am sorry to be so humorless, but it is very difficult to get anything done. Nothing on our "to do" list has been addressed in many months (e.g. content forks), the Collaboration of the Month has not been worked on (in fact, the only COTM project that was actually worked on was worked on basically by me, with a little help from Jean and hindrance by now-blocked sockpuppet guy), and the project is basically dormant. Jean is working on a lot of articles, and Marian Kroy is helping with plot synopses occasionally, but other than that, the only progress being made in the whole project is when an editor has a pet project, like Hair, Hairspray and Wicked. We need to try to get more editors to actively collaborate if we are ever to get a lot of articles past the start level. I could rant further, but behold, I have said enough. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I definitely did mean it lightheartedly -- you collected quite a bit of information. I agree we have been getting along better lately and I thought you'd see the joke. I was running out the door from work -- and Gemignani had been in the back of my head for awhile. It's almost embarrassing that he doesn't have an article, but everyone seems to forget about the Musical Directors....

At any rate....

I'm a Wikipedian because of one of those "pet projects" -- Phish. I worked hard to get it up to GA, then found WPMT. People who have pet projects go on to other things, and it helps the project in the long run. Let our collaborations find us. We'll turn people into good Wikipedians -- HM is now an admin.... Even though you were the sole dissenter in his RfA, you helped get him there. I certainly hope MB sticks around.

My approach to WP is very "There is no deadline," so the fact that the CotM doesn't happen doesn't bother me. Basically, I don't feel any pressure to get anything done. Wikipedia will NEVER be finished. EVER. So, if it takes 10 years to get a respectable section on musical theatre, we have the time. But we're getting there.

Regardless, please don't think that I'm trying to undermine you, or that I'm not supportive, or that I don't think you're an asset to the project -- both WPMT and WP. I obviously do want things to get done, or I wouldn't be here.

And it's hard to not at least try to be funny while I do it. :-) —  MusicMaker5376 01:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your response. I'm not very patient, I admit, and I like to feel the wind on my face as we speed forward. I thought I said so before, but if I forgot, congratulations on your fine work on Phish. I really do feel frustrated at the state of the "average" WPMT article, although we are undeniably making progress. I also do appreciate your anti-vandalism efforts, as I have absolutely no patience with that. I agree that the project is always going to be a work-in-process, but I would like to see the day, sooner rather than later, when a user of the encyclopedia could look up any of the 1,000 or so most famous musicals and 1,000 or so most famous performers/directors/creators, and see *at least* a B-class article with a good lead, synopsis, background, description of major productions and reception; and at least starts/hardly any stubs for the rest. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

And that day will come. It just won't be tomorrow. Especially not with only three of us editing with any regularity.

But people will join and MT will grow. Eventually our college kids will graduate, and, hopefully, they'll be around a little more. (Or, they become jaded and focus on career....) The project isn't stagnant -- the project was stagnant before 2006. Since then, quite a lot has been accomplished. Slowly.

At any rate, I've been planning to do another roll call to slim our list of "participants" and light a fire under some butts. Probably for the month of June.... —  MusicMaker5376 16:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spring Awakening

Check it out. All the little cast members have articles now, and by do they suck. Leave me a message about where I can vote. Oh, plus, the photos being added to their articles seem to be copyvio to me. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I speedied one -- if that speedy goes thru, I'll just speedy the rest. —  MusicMaker5376 14:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. You da Man! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hair GA review

We got GA review comments. Would you please take a look? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Let me know if I can help with anything (set and costumes?) - Mblaxill (talk) 19:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Most definitely! Do what you can with that! —  MusicMaker5376 19:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

re music, you have MacDermot describing the African influence, and if you listen to the album, it's really just your standard pop rock type thing - similar to what many of the bands like the Beatles and Rolling Stones were playing. If you want me to find something in Horn i can try - Mblaxill (talk) 21:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on the GA rating for Hair. Your work in whipping the article into shape was excellent. Well done! -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Musicmaker! - just wanted to say thanks for all the great work. I was a lot of fun to getting to GA with you! PEACE - Mblaxill (talk) 20:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emma Hunton

I converted your prod to an AFD and mentioned your reasoning there. I hope that's alright with you. Rmhermen (talk) 20:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

That's cool. —  MusicMaker5376 20:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Creatures of Impulse

I've made the changes you suggested, or tried to - could you have another look? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reviews of Creatures. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Anytime. It's a nice little article; seems like a funny show. Someone should try to recreate the music. — MusicMaker5376 13:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

If you like Hamlet and want to read a funny little Gilbert show, see Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (Gilbert). -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)