Talk:Musique concrète
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The articles could indeed be merged, but the term "musique concrète" must be prefered to tape music. Because the genre was virtually established by Pierre Schaeffer, who discussed it philosophically at length. Briefly, the musique concrète is used to contrast it from the "abstract music" as coined by Heinrich Schenker!!!
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[edit] Subjective statements
I would be going to change various statements such as in the section:
- Recently, the growing popularity in all forms of electronica has led to a re-birth of Musique concrète. Artists such as Squarepusher, Christian Fennesz, Francisco Lopez, Ernesto Rodrigues and Scanner use many Concrète techniques in their music while often being classified under more common electronica genres such as IDM or downtempo. Music magazines such as The Wire regularly feature articles and reviews of musique concrète.
becouse this is very unbalanced, the author seems to simply ignore the fact that artists such as Brian Wilson-Beach Boys, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Brian Eno, Cluster, Can and Einstürzende Neubauten made an extensive and prominent use of musique concrete techniques both as additional effects added to more "usual" songs and as pure experimental or avant-garde artistic form in a number of works, with regard to Pink Floyd, for example, here only "Bike" is mentioned. Dealing with more recent artists is appropriate only after a huge description of the works of oldest musicians.--Doktor Who 02:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- I regret I do not have time for now, I am very busy with other stuff, it would be nice if someone would consider my suggestion and try to fix the article. For any question, if I can, I will be happy to reply here or at my talk page.--Doktor Who 07:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Electroacoustics
The term "electroacoustics" points to Musique concrète. However, the link http://www.massa.com/fundamentals.htm defines the term otherwise. Electroacousics is the study of acoustic transducers like microphones and loudspeakers. This should be corrected for.
[edit] Raymond Scott
Should Raymond Scott be included here? I'm not a music historian but I enjoy Raymond Scott's work and know he used to market his company, Manhattan Research Inc, as a facility for composing electronic music and musique concrète. Discordian 15:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Short article.
My writing skills are not up to par at the moment, but I feel that there is a lot more that can be said about this subject. Personally, I feel that Musique Concrète is one of the most overlooked movements in the history of western music. I agree with the article's assumption that many modern electronic artists have been influenced in one way or another by this movement, and also that other "classic rock" artists such as Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Can, and even more diverse artists such as Salvador Dali, John Cage, and even, dare I say it, the very concept of music video itself, owe their very existence to these pioneers. In short, I'm happy this article exists, but it could be much more informative. 69.92.205.158 13:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Zappa's 'instrument'
Mike Keneally (http://www.keneally.com/poodlebites.html#notes) says that '118---"Apostolic Vlorch Injector" should be "Blorch"'.
Zappa himself, in an interview in February 1987 for 'Music Technology' magazine, said, "Oh, 'The Chrome-plated Megaphone of Destiny'? The percussive-type noises, the thing that sounds like little squirts and explosions, was done by using a box that we built at a studio called the Apostolic Vlorch Injector."
Mike seems to think he knows more about Zappa than Zappa himself did. Me, I go with 'the horse's mouth'. Dwoogie (talk) 16:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Controvery
This section is written in such a way that it appears to be NPOV, though I don't know much about musique concrète. If it's actually some sort of consensus opinion, it should have citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JustinBlank (talk • contribs) 06:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
