Talk:Music of Galicia, Cantabria and Asturias

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This article suggests that the traditional music of Galicia is “Celtic”, implying affinity with the traditional musics of Scotland and Ireland. Readers should be aware that most scholars are likely to consider this poppycock. Galicia is not in any real sense “Celtic”, and its traditional music (as opposed to modern folk-pop music) is much more fundamentally related to that of other parts of northern Iberia than to that of Ireland, Scotland and Brittany.


I think I have made this more clear. Remember, you can be bold in updating pages. Tuf-Kat 23:12, Feb 26, 2004 (UTC)

Sep 3, 2004 - Dear Tuf-Kat... I don't really think you've made this any clearer; I think you've just restated your "Celtic origins" theory, which in my view is unfounded, a sort of modern myth closely associated with Galician nationalism (with which I have no problem per se). I would suggest the following wording for the first paragraph of this article...

The traditional musics of the northwest Spanish regions of Galicia, Asturias and Cantabria are not really “Celtic” in any strong sense: in fact, these musics are most closely related to the other traditions of Castille and northern Portugal, and their “celticness” is in large measure a latter-day romantic invention. However, it is worth noting a) that much Galician and Asturian traditional music is dominated by bagpipes, and b) that much modern Galician folk and folk-rock is strongly influenced by Irish traditions. Certainly, Galicia is nowadays a strong player on the international Celtic folk scene; and as a result, elements of the pre-industrial Galician tradition have entered the modern Celtic folk repertoire and style.


Well, you can't start an article be explaining what the subject is not, but I have used most of your paragraph as the first in the article. Tuf-Kat 15:40, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

>> you can't start an article by explaining what the subject is not

... unless its inclusion in the category in question is of doubtful validity :) I've taken the liberty of inserting a version of the first paragraph closer to my original, though worded to make clear that some people think Galician traditional music to be more Celtic than I do. And I leave the final wording to you: I promise not to touch it again :) Sep 6

I'm satisfied. Tuf-Kat 15:31, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
Delisted from Good Articles because it's very insufficiently referenced and missing a lot of important information (essentially nothing not about a subset of folk music). Tuf-Kat 02:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gaita description

So, the article says that "It is also possible to close the thumb hole with the little finger of the right hand, thus creating a semitone below the tonic." As a piper, I assume the author meant to say tone hole (the lowest holes on the chanter, not used outside of extended practice) or the actual end of the airway itself, since the thumb hole would already be closed in this case.. I don't know how this applies to the gaita, however. Am I right about this? --MatthewLiberal (talk) 22:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)