Talk:Muscle dysmorphia

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GI Joe? Doesn't exactly seem like the best example... i would've thought more like superman, or he-man or something

  • Seems okay to me, do you remember those cartoons? Those guys looked like Arnie at Mr Olympia. I'll add another example anyway 222.152.249.20 10:17, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

GI Joe should be replaced with Superman or Batman or other obviously more muscular fictional characters. Gi Joe even at his most musuclar was puny compaired to these other characters and I myself being a bodybuilder am a big fan of Superman and I know most other bodybuilders are also. I don't know a single person who watches GI Joe.

I also believe the whole "baggy cloths" should be changd to "smaller tighter cloths" because I believe I myself have a mild form of muscle dysmorphia and I only wear tight cloths that make my muscles look larger. Baggy cloths would make them look smaller. So wearing them wouldn't make sense.

I believe most of the symptoms listed in this article are completly false and that no one I know who obviously obsesses over their muscle size has these symptoms such as isolation or wearing baggy cloths. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.188.116.132 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 27 February 2006.

RE: GI Joe, I'll have to find the article, but when I read the original synopsis of the study, I remember it was more focused on the GI Joe action figures, whose muscular dimensions were shown to be completely unattainable (i.e. Bicep to waist ratio, etc). --DDG 20:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

The line that reads," muscle dysmorphia is fueled by the portrayal of overly fit characters of unattainable musculature in children's cartoons, such as G.I. Joe or Batman", is lacking. It is certainly not just cartoon characters that perpetuate the muscle man image. The Adonis Complex itself mentions a legion of other examples from all kinds of media. A mental disease such as this should also be treated with the care and attention that anorexia and bulimia are given; perhaps not as much attention (because those cases are more numerous), but simply given the same kind of care and attention. One of the posters on this thread has even admitted that he has this conditon; what kind of statement is that to make with such a self-satisfied tone? I think that right there is a good example of the delusionary state that sufferers of this condition undergo: refusing or unable to acknowlegde the severity of the problem, and dealing and discussing it in such a light, non-chalant manner. Another problem is the assertion--even though it is cited--that the problem most commonly occurs in men who are already muscular. I think this should be countered with another study that proves the opposite; I don't know of any particular studies myself, but I know many men around my age who wish to "get big" and they are all skinny. Overall, this article needs to be much better informed.

It's also POV, in my opinion - one of those "invented syndromes" that modern-day people love to obssess over, like (ahem) obsessive-compulsive disorder. I've heard muscle dysmorphia dissed by people simply looking to dump on a guy who's in good shape, same as accusing someone of narcissism or insecurity because they enjoy lifting weights and/or looking good. There's not much scientific evidence concerning muscle dysmorophia, and to me it's just a thing out-of-shape people invoke to condemn in-shape people with. Sure, there are extreme cases, as well as mild "doses". But being a raving lunatic isn't the same thing as being neurotic or o.c. I also think mention should be made of a lot of the bad journalism that's taken and run with this phrase, as though it meant something real; no, it's a "syndrome", which is latter-day medicine's catch-all for nearly anything they choose to define (and deride/derogate, hopefully to sell people on a pharmaceutical to combat it with, although I can't think of how that applies in this case).Skookum1 22:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I have seen people who consider themselves below average in size when they are over 220lbs. It itself is a form of obsessive compulsive disorder(Which I also disagree with you, Is very real). It's a disorder that is usually ascribed to people who don't actually have it(Most bodybuilders) however the condition itself is very real.Wikidudeman (talk) 16:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)