Talk:Murder of Rhys Jones

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Is this article really neccessary? Thousands of people are murdered every day and just because the tabloids decided to pick up on this one, it doesn't make it more important than the countless deaths that are ignored

Take it to WP:AFD if you think this page shouldn't be here.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 13:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yea course its necessary. He wasn't black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.2.141 (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

"Is this article really neccessary?" Yes - Its not so much who as how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.108.36 (talk) 20:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Once again crappy Wikipedia proves just how ineffective an encyclopedia it truely is. His birth date is cited as 1996 on the page dispite a dozen newspapers and the news reporting it as 1995. Haha! pathetic as always. U-Two 21:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title of page

I have moved this page to 'Murder of Rhys Jones' with an appropriate redirect from 'Rhys Jones' to here. I do not know if this is the correct style to use or whether this page should just be callled 'Rhys Jones'. When deciding the name of this page, I have looked at the page of 'Murder of James Bulger. Although this murder is not in the same league as that killing, I think it is quite similar. Does anytone else have any thoughts? - Kneale 23:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's probably appropriate. The child himself is not notable, but his killing was. Same with the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - she's not notable, just her disappearance is.-h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 12:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
The murder is news-worthy, but not notable for an encyclopaedia. If his murder prompts a change to the laws of Britain, or in retrospect - has influence on English/British life then it's fair to include this. IMO it is far too early to know about any influence apart from on the self-propelling media. Perhaps, these murders/disappearances could be merged into a general page e.g. "Notorious murders and disappearances of children in post war Britain".Mr Kline 12:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it appropriate to describe the killing as murder, given that it was almost certainly not a pre-meditated killing, and no charges have yet been brought? Would 'killing' or 'shooting' not be a more appropriate word?Quelcrime (talk) 19:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time to Condense the Article

From Wikipedia:Recentism#Suggestions_for_dealing_with_recentism

After "recentist" articles have calmed down, the instigating news story has dropped from the Main Page and the front pages of newspapers, and the number of edits per day has dropped to a reasonable minimum, concerned Wikipedians ought to initiate comprehensive rewrites. Most articles can be condensed to keep only the most important information, the wider notable effects of an event, and links to major issues to which the article is related. Much of the timeline content and day-to-day updates with minor details can safely be excised.

There's a great deal of excessive detail in the article - mother's birth place for example.217.43.227.121 (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)