Talk:Murder of Dru Sjodin
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Do we really need to include that blurb about the black community? It seems out of place here - perhaps in a "Media Racial Bias" page but not on a page commemerating Dru. --Lizzy 21:47, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] The Trial
Today is May 12, 2006, when is this trial supposed to begin? I am amazed at how slow our system moves on cases such as these.
Rodriguez does not maintain that he is "still innocent." He tried to cop a plea deal in the beginning with the Fed's regarding the location of Dru's body, hoping to avoid the death penalty. The Fed's refused, and you know the rest of the story. This was even brought up in court that he admitted that he abducted Sjodin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.129.220 (talk) 05:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Across state line
The part of the entry about bringing Dru across state lines lacks detail and borders on inaccuracy. Rodriguez was convicted of that, yes, but the evidence showed Dru was alive when placed in the vehicle due to blood splatter evidence of arterial spraying. They could only prove she was alive in the parking lot, not that she was alive when her body crossed the state line. But she was alive when PLACED IN THE VEHICLE used in transporting her, so Rodriguez met the criteria of the law.
The entry, as it was written, implies she was alive when brought across the state line. We just don't know for certain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyHoffa (talk • contribs) 19:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- It does imply that she was alive as you state. Would you change the tone of the entry to indicate the uncertainty? Royalbroil 20:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was pre-emptive move already performed, and there's no clear reason to reverse it. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:44, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Dru Sjodin → Murder of Dru Sjodin — Notability is the event —Artichoke2020 (talk) 19:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Survey
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- Support. I would have opposed had you not explained this proposed notability guideline. You're right, she wasn't notable except for her death. Her death made national headlines for a long time which is why the article was added to my watchlist. Her name needs to remain as a redirect to the murder article. Royalbroil 20:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
- Any additional comments:
- The proposed guideline I am following is Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts). There is a subsection on article title that says:
“ | In cases where the victim or the perpetrator of a crime does not meet the criteria for an individual article, but there exists sourced coverage of the crime itself sufficient to meet notability standards, the material should generally be presented in an article documenting the crime event and not the people involved. For example, a high profile crime would have an article entitled "Murder of Joe Bloggs", "Disappearance of Jane Doe", etc. | ” |
- — Artichoke2020 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
See Talk:Chanel Petro-Nixon#Similar moves. Andrewa (talk) 17:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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