Talk:Murder of Dennis Jurgens

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The tone of this article seems to me to be non-neutral and excessively judgemental about Lois Jurgens. (Not that she didn't do truly horrible things, just that it's not really the place of an encyclopedia to be judgemental about it). I'll try to come back later to start tidying it up. --JennyRad 19:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe the words chosen are overly judgemental. The words mentioned were specific diagnosis by trained professionals that came out during the trial of Lois Jurgens. Considering the gravity of her crimes, I believe the descriptions are restrained if anything.

I concur. Given the abuse this woman perpetuated on a toddler, torturing him for two years until killing him in an agonizing death, I was surprised that contributors to wikipedia could maintain such a neutral tone. I have added a link showing his graves and pictures. If anyone knows how to upload Dennis's picture to wikipedia, please do so. The link is http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=6465523&FLgrid=6465523& --Ahab --[Ahab1974] 01:45, 18 Dec 2006 (EST)

I took out 'non age-appropriate' from before the religious training. Leaving it in would assume that there is such a thing as age-appropriate religious indoctrination; and, hence biased towards religion. Any comments?

I would disagree, but not strongly enough to necessarily put it back in. The learing to say a Rosary and memorize prayer is a pretty standard part of the religious training of a mainstream Catholic child in America. What Lois Jurgens did however, is force it upon them through threats and torture at an age when most children can barely learn their ABCs (This would be akin to stating that a parent practiced "non age-appropriate" scholastic training on a 2nd grader that they forced to learn Algebra). And that is the point that was being made-approve of religion or not, learning parayer and parctice of it is a normal, acceptable part of raising children in many families when done appropriately; what Lois Jurgens did (including forcing them to kneel and pray on a broomstick) was Child Abuse.

For the person who wanted to change "coerced" into "convinced" do some research before making that judgement call. She was blackmailed, threatened and forced by the authorities and fought to keep him.